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I think if NAUSHAD is doing him self!! it should not be devastating!


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I think it's a travesty messing with this film except for restorations! :lol:


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Even if Naushad is involved with it, it is a bad idea. Restore the picture quality, restore the sound, but don't add any elements that weren't there in the first place.

As Orson Welles said, "Keep Ted Turner and his damn crayons away from 'Citizen Kane'!"


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DragunR2 wrote:
Even if Naushad is involved with it, it is a bad idea. Restore the picture quality, restore the sound, but don't add any elements that weren't there in the first place.

As Orson Welles said, "Keep Ted Turner and his damn crayons away from 'Citizen Kane'!"


I think it will add a ton to the experience if the audio had proper ambience which this film audio should have had. Technology was not available then, it is available now. Only thing is to do it properly. With the original music director Naushad at the helm, I have no doubt about it.

Imagine clasical songs, the battle scenes, Raj Darbaar scenes, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya, Ae Mohabbat Zindabaad etc that require lots of aggressive surrounds.

I don't agree with adding color to the film though. If the film was to be in color, it should have been shot that way. Color film technology was available then, surround sound was not. So, no harm adding surround effects now, when the technology is available.


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Imagine clasical songs, the battle scenes, Raj Darbaar scenes, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya, Ae Mohabbat Zindabaad etc that require lots of aggressive surrounds.


Maybe they do require aggressive sounds now a days, but leave it alone!. It was good enough in those days and should remain as such! With proper restoration they can clean up the sound, but don't change or add anything! Let it remain a classic! Freaking heathens! :roll:


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DragunR2 wrote:
arsh wrote:
Resurrecting Mughal-E-Azam
By Sam ©2004 Bollyvista.com

This version is sounding like a travesty! Colorization is bad enough, but they're messing with the soundtrack now? Have you guys heard HMV's Revival albums? They take the original songs and overlay them with new instruments. I bought one tape, but never again
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The HMV revival series were cheap and nasty overlays of comuterised music ... not comparable at all to a process where the original score is re-recorded with modern recording methods. I am looking forward to hearing Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya in full stereo surround sound on the big screen!

A similar process of re-recording original score elements and overlaying the original vocals was applied to the songs of Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baaje. Has anyone heard this? I have the CD of this soundtrack and the end result is magnificant. :o


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Muz wrote:
DragunR2 wrote:
arsh wrote:
I am looking forward to hearing Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya in full stereo surround sound on the big screen!

A similar process of re-recording original score elements and overlaying the original vocals was applied to the songs of Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baaje. Has anyone heard this? I have the CD of this soundtrack and the end result is magnificant. :o


It all depends on the director. JJPB director V. Shataram as well as JJPB music director, for sure must have been involved in releasing that stereo audio that must have been created for JJPB's 70mm blown up print. Sure, the result will be an improvement over the old version because of advances in recording technology.

Similarly as the original music director NAUSHAD is involved in bringing out the Dolby Digital audio of MEA, I'm sure the result will be an improvement.

BTW, any confirmation on what kind of Dolby audio will it be?? Dolby Digital 5.1, stereo or mono??

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Imagine clasical songs, the battle scenes, Raj Darbaar scenes, Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya, Ae Mohabbat Zindabaad etc that require lots of aggressive surrounds.


It was good enough in those days and should remain as such! With proper restoration they can clean up the sound, but don't change or add anything! Let it remain a classic! Freaking heathens! :roll:


I kind of agree with this if the end result is going to be terrible due to incompetence and/ or non-involvement of the original creator as in most of such cases. Hopefully, MEA audio will be an exception.

Maybe they do require aggressive sounds now a days, but leave it alone!. [/quote]

It required agressive surrounds in those days too. It's just that technology was not (easily) available.

Rana


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DD MONO 5.1 BY YRF/EROS :wink: :evil:


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Muz wrote:
A similar process of re-recording original score elements and overlaying the original vocals was applied to the songs of Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baaje. Has anyone heard this? I have the CD of this soundtrack and the end result is magnificant. :o


I have a cassette of the stereo version of JJPB and it does sound pretty good. The vocals sound cleaned up too, so everything is seamless. I'm always wary of adding modern elements to old films, whether it is CGI, color, or new sounds and music. I'd rather they just restore the original soundtrack as much as they can instead of trying to make everything sound sparkling.

You can't go 180 degrees from the original film (b/w to color and mono to 5.1) and claim it is the same film.


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a re-reply....

thats nice...they should re-release more old films

but I wish they don't put other films in color...one article mentioned Awara, Mahdumati and Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam....these films would not be the same if they were in color....the whole essence would be gone.

Why can't people watch these films the way they are? :roll: fixing the print and sound is good...but adding color is wrong...


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Disasters in the works:

http://www.indiafm.com/scoop/04/jun/290 ... ndex.shtml

Naya Daur in new color


The grand revival of K. Asif's Mughal-e-Azam coming soon in new format with colored prints and redesigned sound has perhaps clicked a trend of sorts. Filmmaker Ravi Chopra (of Baghban fame) is all set to revive his father B.R.Chopra's 1957 black-and-white classic Naya Daur.

The film based on industrial revolution starring Dilip Kumar, Vaijayanti Mala, Ajit, Jeevan and Johny Walker will be re-released in color by the end of the year. The prints are currently processed in Goa and the coloring procedure will cost about Rs 3 crores. Another 65 lakhs will be spent on the redesigning of the sound into present generation technology.

Based on the response to this film, Chopra will plan to work on their other classic cinema. If the films click with today's youth, there is a strong possibility that many other classic masterpieces will be revived.


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That's a disturbing trend at the
altar of the mighty buck.
That aberration was rejected 15
years ago in USA. Why does India
have to ape this now 20 years late?


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mhafner wrote:
That's a disturbing trend at the
altar of the mighty buck.
That aberration was rejected 15
years ago in USA. Why does India
have to ape this now 20 years late?


:stupid:s :devil: s


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rana wrote:
Disasters in the works:

http://www.indiafm.com/scoop/04/jun/290 ... ndex.shtml

Naya Daur in new color


The grand revival of K. Asif's Mughal-e-Azam coming soon in new format with colored prints and redesigned sound has perhaps clicked a trend of sorts. Filmmaker Ravi Chopra (of Baghban fame) is all set to revive his father B.R.Chopra's 1957 black-and-white classic Naya Daur.

The film based on industrial revolution starring Dilip Kumar, Vaijayanti Mala, Ajit, Jeevan and Johny Walker will be re-released in color by the end of the year. The prints are currently processed in Goa and the coloring procedure will cost about Rs 3 crores. Another 65 lakhs will be spent on the redesigning of the sound into present generation technology.

Based on the response to this film, Chopra will plan to work on their other classic cinema. If the films click with today's youth, there is a strong possibility that many other classic masterpieces will be revived.


:shock: thats sad....


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