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arsh, you're willing to refund my ticket for Jaan-e-mann??? :shock:

Just kidding. Glad you enjoyed it.


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arsh, you're willing to refund my ticket for Jaan-e-mann??? :shock:

Just kidding. Glad you enjoyed it.


I did not see it man! i was trying to make rana feel better though! :wink:

I did not produce that film and do not recommend or stand behind it! but nevertheless yaaron ke liey, JAAN E MAN kiya jaan bhi hazar hai! :P :wink: :idea:


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My take on Don. Not as good as one might expect from a film fro the makers of Dil Chahta Hai, but even then an entertaining film that keeps you glued to the screen. The music is the biggest let down in the film, 'Yeh Mera Dil' being the only good song, the sound in the song was simply awesome. It is strange that Ehsaan, Shankar & Loy, have given some of their worst music in their most prestigious assignment to date, one would think they would have worked extra hard for this film. Even the title song which sounds okay in the promos is horrible. In the promos they only play a small portion of the song which is fine, but when you hear the rest of the song, it is utter crap, with horrible lyrics and even worse music. I wonder what Farhan was thinking and why Javed whas written such inept lyrics for his son's film. Technically the film is very slickly made and sets a new bench mark in Indian cinema. Shah Rukh Khan as Don is okay but is unable to make the character memorable. But the again the problem is none amongst the current crop of actors could have done any better. The rest of the cast is also okay and that along with the music is the other major problem with the film, there is no one in the film that does an exceptional job and thus the film does not move up to the next level. Overall the film is far better than the likes of Jaaneman. Also please leave the old Don behing when you watch this film. It is poitnless to try and compare the two films. The gap in acting calibre of Amitabh and Shahrukh is way too big for any reasonable comparisons to be made and thus if you attempt to do the same, you will be doing injustice to Farhan's film.

PS: The sound was good to very good overall. As mentioned earlier, the 'Yeh Mera Dil' song sounds awesome, while the sound in some of the other songs was not too good. But the sound is definately directional and quite good if watched in a decent theater.


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My take on Don. Not as good as one might expect from a film fro the makers of Dil Chahta Hai, but even then an entertaining film that keeps you glued to the screen. The music is the biggest let down in the film, 'Yeh Mera Dil' being the only good song, the sound in the song was simply awesome. It is strange that Ehsaan, Shankar & Loy, have given some of their worst music in their most prestigious assignment to date, one would think they would have worked extra hard for this film. Even the title song which sounds okay in the promos is horrible. In the promos they only play a small portion of the song which is fine, but when you hear the rest of the song, it is utter crap, with horrible lyrics and even worse music. I wonder what Farhan was thinking and why Javed whas written such inept lyrics for his son's film. Technically the film is very slickly made and sets a new bench mark in Indian cinema. Shah Rukh Khan as Don is okay but is unable to make the character memorable. But the again the problem is none amongst the current crop of actors could have done any better. The rest of the cast is also okay and that along with the music is the other major problem with the film, there is no one in the film that does an exceptional job and thus the film does not move up to the next level. Overall the film is far better than the likes of Jaaneman. Also please leave the old Don behing when you watch this film. It is poitnless to try and compare the two films. The gap in acting calibre of Amitabh and Shahrukh is way too big for any reasonable comparisons to be made and thus if you attempt to do the same, you will be doing injustice to Farhan's film.

PS: The sound was good to very good overall. As mentioned earlier, the 'Yeh Mera Dil' song sounds awesome, while the sound in some of the other songs was not too good. But the sound is definately directional and quite good if watched in a decent theater.


Sanjay yaar!! Happy deewali to you!

But despite being respectful to your valuable opinion , I am wondering why you are defending inferior remakes to be viewed independent to orig and defying Farhan going down the regular drain. Whenever there will be a shameful remake it will be for sure bound to be compared to the original, it was lifted and remade from without exclusion and of course it has to either make its own mark or be washed off, whether Hollywood or bollywood!

Starting from music , to Sarook trying to fit into BIG B's shoes, Udit stinking at sadala paan!! It sucked! even though it will be hit here and there!

IMHO!! even a slick product as Lakshya or Don, will fail to leave its mark and be with no impact, despite all big wigs and hype attached to it if it fails to create aura of original. It was fortunate for Farhan that Don was no CLASSIC it was just BIG B and entertainment value that he had to RECREATE and some good melodies, but he went high tech, low quality way!

Now tell, me while watching Dutta's Umrao, how will you get Rekha/Muzzafar ali's classic out of your mind!! I am glad that at least he was able to get a presentable music to start with that is ORIGINAL not STINKY SHAMEFUL REHASH!


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arsh wrote:
Sanjay yaar!! Happy deewali to you!

But despite being respectful to your valuable opinion , I am wondering why you are defending inferior remakes to be viewed independent to orig and defying Farhan going down the regular drain. Whenever there will be a shameful remake it will be for sure bound to be compared to the original, it was lifted and remade from without exclusion and of course it has to either make its own mark or be washed off, whether Hollywood or bollywood!

Yaar Arsh, thanks for the Deewali greetings. My intentions are not to defend inferior or otherwise remakes of old films, but at the same time in a movie industry totally bereft of new ideas and where every other film has been copied from some other film, hollywood and/or old bollywood film, why pick on someone who atleast has the decency to admit that he is remaking an old film. After all tons of others have done the same in the past and I am sure will do so in the future, the only difference being that they have not and will not admit that they have copied from elsewhere. What I find hypocritical of the Indian audience is that if only Farhan had not called his film Don, no one would have been making comparisons between his and Chandra Barot's film. There are too many such examples from the past for any need to even mention them, I am sure you are aware of enough. In fact some of the most successfull Indian films, and that includes commercial and critically successfull films, have been remakes and in most cases without any credit to the originals.
Just to refresh everyone's memory a bit, three of the top five hits of all time:
Sholay - Seven Samurai/The Magnificient Seven/Khotey Sikkey/Mera Gaon Mera Dost
Hum Aapke Hain Kaun - Nadiya Ke Paar
Raja Hindustani (<--Absolute crap film) - Jab Jab Phool Khile


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Sanjay wrote:
The sound was good to very good overall. The sound is definately directional and quite good if watched in a decent theater.


The theatre where I saw is as good as it gets anywhere. But, still it was Front Channel only for DON. Same theatre had JAANEMAN with excellent directional sound and ton of Subwoofer.
I'm sure Don has very directional audios and ton odf Subwoofer. But, problem is mismatch print:

Distributors here don't send DTS disc and I think, this must have been a DTS print. So, in absence of DTS disc, you get a backup linear audio track if DD/ DD-EX is not on the print. The theatre is equipped with all audio formats, DD, DD-EX, Dolby surround, DTS, SDDS.


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Sanjay wrote:
arsh wrote:

Sholay - Seven Samurai/The Magnificient Seven/Khotey Sikkey/Mera Gaon Mera Dost
Hum Aapke Hain Kaun - Nadiya Ke Paar
Raja Hindustani (<--Absolute crap film) - Jab Jab Phool Khile


Isnt the original DON itself inspired(call it whatever) by CHINATOWN(Shammi Kapoor's)....i did not quite realise it till i caught it on TV .


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I saw Don at my local AMC Theatre today, does anyone know what sound system they use. It sounded pretty good . Good seperation on the speakers.


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We've definitely posted on previous boards about how Indian distribs. have skimped on the film prints....some people get the good, full 5.1 digital sound prints, some only 2.0 (and sometimes bad pic quality as well).


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Watched the original AB Don last weekend and caught this new Don on few days ago. The new Don is okay movie nothing brilliant but it’s worth a watch I reckon. Biggest problem with this new Don is that SRK (rightly so to some certain extent) and Boman Irani dominate the screen time and there is very little character development for the rest of the cast. Roma, Jasjit & some of Don’s gang characters have very little presence in the movie, while watching the old Don they have a more significant presence in the movie. The pacing especially in the first half is amiss, it’s like Farhan Akhtar is bored with the old Don story and trying to quickly pass it through so he can get to his ‘changed’ bits and show off a little – and when it does get to the altered story it does pick up and becomes a better movie to watch.

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Sanjay wrote:
arsh wrote:
Sanjay yaar!! Happy deewali to you!

But despite being respectful to your valuable opinion , I am wondering why you are defending inferior remakes to be viewed independent to orig and defying Farhan going down the regular drain. Whenever there will be a shameful remake it will be for sure bound to be compared to the original, it was lifted and remade from without exclusion and of course it has to either make its own mark or be washed off, whether Hollywood or bollywood!

Yaar Arsh, thanks for the Deewali greetings. My intentions are not to defend inferior or otherwise remakes of old films, but at the same time in a movie industry totally bereft of new ideas and where every other film has been copied from some other film, hollywood and/or old bollywood film, why pick on someone who atleast has the decency to admit that he is remaking an old film. After all tons of others have done the same in the past and I am sure will do so in the future, the only difference being that they have not and will not admit that they have copied from elsewhere. What I find hypocritical of the Indian audience is that if only Farhan had not called his film Don, no one would have been making comparisons between his and Chandra Barot's film. There are too many such examples from the past for any need to even mention them, I am sure you are aware of enough. In fact some of the most successfull Indian films, and that includes commercial and critically successfull films, have been remakes and in most cases without any credit to the originals.
Just to refresh everyone's memory a bit, three of the top five hits of all time:
Sholay - Seven Samurai/The Magnificient Seven/Khotey Sikkey/Mera Gaon Mera Dost
Hum Aapke Hain Kaun - Nadiya Ke Paar
Raja Hindustani (<--Absolute crap film) - Jab Jab Phool Khile


I got your point man!! clear and vivid! but bad remakes, declared, undeclared suck imho!


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ali wrote:
Watched the original AB Don last weekend and caught this new Don on few days ago. The new Don is okay movie nothing brilliant but it’s worth a watch I reckon. Biggest problem with this new Don is that SRK (rightly so to some certain extent) and Boman Irani dominate the screen time and there is very little character development for the rest of the cast. Roma, Jasjit & some of Don’s gang characters have very little presence in the movie, while watching the old Don they have a more significant presence in the movie. The pacing especially in the first half is amiss, it’s like Farhan Akhtar is bored with the old Don story and trying to quickly pass it through so he can get to his ‘changed’ bits and show off a little – and when it does get to the altered story it does pick up and becomes a better movie to watch.

Ali


and imho, old Don, was mostly AB, that sarook miserably fail to re create.


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What's the verdict? how is it?


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Arabica wrote:
What's the verdict? how is it?


HIT CHO!!IRRESPECTIVE! :idea:


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arsh wrote:
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the film seemed front-channel only with the print I saw at the Imaginasian in NYC.


What a let down. This effects heavy film must be multichannel with aggressive sub-woofer activity. And, I'm sure it is, as experienced in trailers. I think, it's just mismatch between print and theatre audio setup or capability.

When a romantic film JAANEMAN can have directional audio with aggressive sub-woofer, then why not DON that's hyped as effects heavy film.


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Yeah rana. And they showed a Dolby Digital snipe right before Don that utilized all the channels. So this is definitely a print problem.


wait for adlab/utv dvd to satisfy the fans! hardcores only plus rana! :lol:


Moreover, it's not just DD, it's DD-EX. So, must have aggressive surround as well as aggressive sub-woofer activity. Unless, it's all for promotion only and then economizing on production and prints costs ?? Or, may be the fools sent DTS prints without DTS discs and we get a grand back-up linear track ??


I agree ! and I understand your agony and sentiments yaar! a sucky film, without even proper sound will be SUPER SUCKER! I had started liking some films just because they came out with good sound on dvds, e'g badal, HSSH etc.even liked BICHOO too :lol: :wink:

In the mean time I'll recommend watching JAAN E MAN with outdated Preity just for good sounds, songs, sets! you might like it!? :roll: :idea:



I can see why they didn't play proper audio. If JAANEMAN audio can shake the theatre, same quality sound for action film DON would have brought the theatre down. :lol:

Despite valiant efforts, couldn't get any definitive answer why it has Front Channel only. Theatre says, they have no control over what print they get. They get whatever distributos gives them. They are capable of playing all audio formats (DD, DD-EX, DTS, SDDS etc) in all theatres. My speculation is that distributor sends a DTS print without a DTS disc and we end up with back-up audio.

I'm sure, DON experience will be awsome if presented with same quality audio that they have for JAANEMAN, playing in the same multiplex.


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