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Anil Kapoor is the most insecure guy I have ever met - Anurag Kashyup
By Joginder Tuteja, September 12, 2005 - 05:32 IST

There have been directors who have waited for number of years to get a break in Bollywood. There also have been directors who have waited for long for a movie of theirs to come out of a can. But seldom do you find a director who has been critically acclaimed worldwide but still awaits release of two of his movies [Paanch, Black Friday] stuck for different reasons.

Meet writer-director Anurag Kashyap in a holds-no-bar conversation with this writer who met him at an International Film Festival at PVR, Gurgaon.

Anurag, first and foremost a question that you would have been asked practically every day. What's the status on 'Black Friday'
(Speaks with a wide grin) Yes, Black Friday is not coming in near future. The case is still in court. Earlier the hearing was slated for August but now it has been pushed to December. So I suppose any further updates would be only after December.

So currently what is keeping you busy?
I am working on 'Gulal' and I am highly excited about it. In fact that's my focus now while I have 'Paanch' and 'Black Friday' behind me.

Can you elaborate further on Gulal?
Gulal is set in Rajasthan and is a fictional movie set a few years from now, though it is not too futuristic. It is a love story cum political cum thriller all rolled into one and is the journey of an honest man fighting a corrupt system. There is also a terrorist outfit angle in the movie. The movie was shot for a few days 3.5 years back [February 2002] but staled thereafter due to unavoidable circumstances. But I always wanted to make the movie and so there I am. Jhamu Sugandh is producing the movie. [Smiles] That's all I can elaborate at the moment.

So who all form the starcast of the movie?
My film primarily stars newcomers. Raja Chaudhary, Ayesha Mohan and Abhimanyu Singh play the lead protagonists. While Raja is surely going to be a man to watch out for, I can conveniently tag Ayesha Mohan as the 'female KK'. A bundle of talent, she is surely going to go places. In addition, there are also regulars like Kay Kay Menon and Aditya Srivastava.

I can conveniently tag Ayesha Mohan as the 'female KK'
How about the music aspect of 'Gulal'?
Music of Gulal would be of the kind that you would have never heard before. It forms an important piece of the movie and is composed by Piyush Mishra, who also writes the lyrics. [Piyush is the same man who acted brilliantly in Maqbool and Matrubhoomi and scripted the recently released Yahaan]

Roughly what's the budget of Gulal?
It's Rs. 4 crores.

Coming back to Black Friday. You must be aware that the pirated CDs of the movie have flooded the market months back.
[Smiles again] Yes, I know. In fact on hearing about this news, initially I was very low and depressed. But then I started getting compliments for the work I have done. Also on watching the movie I realized that the movie was cut short by an astonishing 45 minutes. All key portions of the movie are cut from the print. So when the movie would be out in theatres, people would realize what all they have missed.

But how come the pirated prints came out in open at all?
It's obviously the mischief an insider.

What's your stance on piracy though?
You would be surprised but I am all FOR piracy. See all tall claims of filmmakers fighting against piracy go out of the window when the same people blatantly copy Hollywood films and call them their own. We pirate ideas so what's the big deal? After all isn't it "intellectual piracy"? In that case isn't it better to see your own movie been watched by millions, even if that's on pirated CDs?

I am all in for piracy
What really made the release of Black Friday to be stopped after the case reached High Court? There were also reports of some of the bomb blast accused currently in jail not being happy with the content!
On the contrary it was the other way round. The accused appreciated the film and wanted it to be out. Even the judge praised the film and hailed the effort. But still the court wanted the release of the movie to be delayed for some time.

Do you think that when the movie eventually gets released, it may turn out to be India's nomination for Oscars?
Frankly speaking, I don't care. I only know that the movie has been made with a lot of sweat and blood and would strike a chord.

And how does the future of 'Paanch' look like?
I am hopeful about Paanch getting released as well, though there have been multiple times when the movie came close to a release. With Boney Kapoor acquiring the movie and his 'No Entry' being a major success, chances are higher that he may release 'Paanch' soon as well.

In your low times were there any instances when you thought of venturing into so called mainstream cinema?
Never. Because I just can't relate to the kind of films being made currently. The day I feel that I can, I would join the league, but presently that day doesn't seem in sight. The problem is that even today number of film makers come to me with the DVDs of Hollywood movies and want me to remake them in Hindi. Sorry, but that's not my cup of tea.

Number of film makers come to me with the DVDs of Hollywood movies and want me to remake them in Hindi
So what are the kind of movies you watch?
I see very few movies and in recent times have seen 'My Wife's Murder', 'Iqbal' and 'Dansh'. Out of these, I liked 'Iqbal' the most because of its honest approach and a great narration. Hats off to Nagesh Kukunoor for coming up with such a brilliant film. I feel he is the most honest director around and deserves all the appreciation. He inspires me as he is a truly independent Indian filmmaker. I liked Dansh too but then I had already seen 'Death and The Maiden' [Dansh's inspiration]. 'My Wife's Murder' was a disappointment mainly due to its harsh background music that just killed the movie.

'My Wife's Murder' was a disappointment mainly due to its harsh background music that just killed the movie
Talking about Nagesh Kukunoor who got a good platform for his 'Iqbal'. Haven't you ever regretted not getting an opportunity to work with an established production house like Subhash Ghai's'?
It's easier for Nagesh to work with someone like Subhash Ghai due to number of "releases" behind him, but that's not the case with me as I am still without a release [smiles].

But then you have worked with Ram Gopal Verma with writing Satya, Shool and Kaun for him. Haven't you ever thought of directing for his FACTORY?
The thing is that in this case I don't want to work with him. He is a person who involves himself in all aspects of film making while I like to be completely responsible for my work. This leads to inevitable clash of interests.

At one point of time you were even poised to work with Anil Kapoor in 'Allwyn Kaalicharan'. What happened to that?
Anil Kapoor is the most insecure guy I have ever met. One fine day he told me it's a brilliant script and was all excited about the movie. He even did a photo shoot. But just when the movie's shooting was to start, he backed out. I believe actors are the most self obsessed and narcissist as anyone can get.



I believe actors are the most self obsessed and narcissist as anyone can get
Tell us something about your background.
I come from a small town called Gorakhpur in Uttar Pradesh. From the very childhood I wanted to be a good human being after I read moral science in my earlier schooling days. I did my graduation from Hansraj College, New Delhi. Even in those days, I didn't have enough pocket money to spend lavishly. That's the reason I could never even go out for a date [laughs]!

A section of media is constantly against you. Any comments?
Everyone has rights to talk about others' movie. Even I criticize movies made by others and hence expect others to do the same for me. Say anything about my movie, I won't mind that [smiles again]!

But even you have been famous for some of the articles written by you?
And what's wrong in that? In fact there has been a piece of mine that never got published. After all what freedom do I have when I cannot speak my mind? Can't I voice my opinion? Can't I say that I am discontent? After all I am not threatening to endanger a subject!


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Ripped from Indiafm..............I like this guy more and more the more I read about him!!!!!

Can you elaborate further on Gulal?
Gulal is set in Rajasthan and is a fictional movie set a few years from now, though it is not too futuristic. It is a love story cum political cum thriller all rolled into one and is the journey of an honest man fighting a corrupt system. There is also a terrorist outfit angle in the movie. The movie was shot for a few days 3.5 years back [February 2002] but staled thereafter due to unavoidable circumstances. But I always wanted to make the movie and so there I am. Jhamu Sugandh is producing the movie. [Smiles] That's all I can elaborate at the moment.

I just hope he knows what he's doing, I have my fingers crossed, otherwise, the highlighted term may point that he's going all Bollywood on us.

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At one point of time you were even poised to work with Anil Kapoor in 'Allwyn Kaalicharan'. What happened to that?
Anil Kapoor is the most insecure guy I have ever met. One fine day he told me it's a brilliant script and was all excited about the movie. He even did a photo shoot. But just when the movie's shooting was to start, he backed out. I believe actors are the most self obsessed and narcissist as anyone can get.

A while back, at a rediff interview, he also mentioned how he wants to work with Amitabh Bachchan, but realized that Bachchan himself might have a cynical view on Kashyap.


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Nice read - there is a 'healthy' myth that seems to be building around this guy , heres hoping his films get released some day in the mainstream arena !


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What's your stance on piracy though?
You would be surprised but I am all FOR piracy. See all tall claims of filmmakers fighting against piracy go out of the window when the same people blatantly copy Hollywood films and call them their own. We pirate ideas so what's the big deal? After all isn't it "intellectual piracy"? In that case isn't it better to see your own movie been watched by millions, even if that's on pirated CDs?

I am all in for piracy


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A new interview with Anurag Kashap, some very revealing stuff...

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CATCHER IN THE RYE

Three films in seven years. Not one released. With the 1993 Bombay blasts judgement underway, will Black Friday finally hit the screens? In this searing piece, Anurag Kashyap describes the heartbreak of being angular in Bollywood

Unless a film is seen, one can’t test one’s intuition. I could be before my time in Bollywood, but I am convinced I’m not before my time in this country

January 27, 2005. That was the day fixed for the premiere of my film Black Friday. We had worked our way through the Censor Board and the tada court. They had asked us to remove the tag line: The True Story of the Bombay Blasts of 1993. We had complied. We had fought the case claiming prejudice filed by Majid Memon, and won a clearance. Everything seemed to be falling into place. And then, a day before... ... the premier, they got a stay order. This was my third film in seven years; not one had had a release. I slipped into a severe depression.

I was first drawn to the Bombay blasts when I was urged by producer Arindam Mitra to read journalist Hussain Zaidi’s book, Black Friday. It affected me deeply. Arindam wanted to make a TV series on the blasts, directed by Aditya Bhattacharya. But when I read the book, I convinced them it should be a film. Aditya backed out very graciously to make space for me.

From the start, it was a very difficult and bewildering project. There were so many strands, so many characters, so many motivations, it just would not fall into place. One day Arindam suggested, why don’t you work backwards to where it all began? Suddenly, it clicked. We started the film at a point three days before the blasts — when one of the accused allegedly tipped the police off but no one believed him — and worked backwards to the Babri demolition. I had the script ready in a week.

Balance was always the main difficulty. The subject was so sensitive, the film was almost like a trial. It dealt with real people, real names. We were determined not to go the usual Bollywood route and fictionalise or tamper with the film’s integrity.

We zeroed in on some central characters: Tiger Memon, Dawood Ibrahim, Rakesh Maira, the chief investigative officer, and Badshah Khan, one of the accused who became a police approver. (I wanted Irfaan Khan to play Badshah Khan and Naseeruddin Shah to play Tiger Memon. They both turned us down. We were making the film during the Gujarat riots and both actors were uncomfortable playing Muslim terrorists.) Many aspects of the case were not balanced in themselves, so the choice was, should we balance them for the sake of balance or should we be honest to the overall film? We opted for the latter. The film moves like a thriller, using the police investigation not just as the driving force but as the protagonist. But what does the film stand for? What does it say?

Life source: Kashyap with daughter
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. That is what my film Black Friday is really about. It was clearly a case where one community — not even a community but its self-appointed moral guardians — committed one set of acts, and the guardians of another community retaliated. Tiger Memon escaped. On the ground, some of the people who got caught were hardened criminals, but mostly they were people who were not in their right minds, young, scarred, vulnerable people who were brainwashed and abused. It was very difficult to arrive at this core yet remain faithful to the plot of the film.

The fate of Black Friday raises a lot of uncomfortable questions about us as a society. I feel I am a very responsible person. My film had a lot of integrity. Go out into the world — every country has political films which are not afraid to take names. But in India, we are not accustomed to that. What is the point of living in a democracy? Why can’t we address issues directly? If people disagree, why can’t we have a democratic debate? Why do we stop people from watching films? Why do we set ourselves up as moral guardians? Why should Ramadoss care about the smoking habits of my child?

My first film, Paanch, had run into trouble with the Censor Board in 2000. They felt it wasn’t “healthy entertainment” because it dealt unapologetically with sex, drugs and misguided, alienated youth. It was constructed around the famous Joshi Abhyankar murder in Pune, but I had fed a lot of my own life and angst into it — my anger, my escape into drugs and alcohol. Jakkal, the murderer, was a brilliant university topper, but he was led into crime. I saw myself in him; I saw what I could have so easily become if I had not channelised my rage into writing. I saw that violence often has no justification. Not everything stems from emotional desire, or motivations like revenge. It is just irrational, impulsive, irreverent. And, for being that, more brutal. But our cinema is not allowed to reflect our realities. Once Paanch was cleared by the censors, it couldn’t find a distributor: no songs, no stars, no foreign locales.

Paanch had trouble with the Censors. They felt it wasn’t ‘healthy entertainment’ because it dealt unapologetically with sex, drugs and alienated youth
I have written many scripts for other directors: Satya, Kaun, Shool, Mixed Doubles, Water. But unless a film is seen, one cannot test one’s intuition. I could be before my time in Bollywood, but I am convinced I am not before my time in this country. We had more than 200 private trial-screenings of Paanch — the audience response was fantastic. But no distributor would risk it. Bollywood is controlled by families that have grown up in trial rooms. They have no knowledge of the real world.

When Paanch failed to get a release in 2000, I went through a severe black phase again. I was drinking at 11 in the morning. My weight shot up from 72 kilos to 90. I packed my family off to Delhi, I burnt the mattresses, wrote on the walls. I would break down in the middle of the road at 2 and 3 in the morning. I got myself into terrible, embarrassing situations. Finally, after almost a year, I pulled myself out of it and wrote Gulaal. This was based on the song from Pyaasa — Yeh duniya agar mil bhi jaye toh kya hai. It was set in a kind of futuristic Rajasthan, where royals come together, and since everyone’s demanding a separate state, they demand one too. Paanch was a darker version of Dil Chahta Hai, Gulaal perhaps was a darker version of Rang De Basanti. It couldn’t get made. Nobody believed in a subject like that, and the ghost of Paanch still hung fresh over me. Another year passed. Then, in 2003, I tried to do Alvin Kalicharan, a black, mad amalgamation of everything that comprises a Hindi heartland childhood: Bal Bharati, Champak, Manohar Kahaniyan, Satya Katha. Six days before the film, insecure, confused, Anil Kapoor pulled out. It pushed me back under again. Then I met Arindam for Black Friday. We had Black Friday ready in May 2004. This time, I kept writing. I didn’t want to sink into depression. But when a year later, it was blocked a day before the premiere, I caved in. I didn’t come out of my room for days.

Stills from Black Friday
These years have forced a lot of introspection. I’ve not had a release in seven years. I often can’t deal with that. Yet I survive because I’ve been trained for it. I’ve been training myself since I was five.

I grew up in Benares, part of a larger community of relatives and neighbours. My father was an officer in the state electricity board; my mother was a housewife. We often ate at a cousin and neighbour’s home. I was five when an elder cousin and a neighbour began to abuse me sexually. It was more than molestation; it violated everything. I couldn’t understand. I couldn’t speak of it. I was always a very detached child. I went into a deeper shell; my behaviour became erratic. When I was eight, my father sent me to Scindia School in Gwalior. It was more than he could afford and I will always be grateful for that. But Scindia was hell for me. The sexual abuse continued there for years. I hated myself. I couldn’t understand why it was happening to me. I was often picked out, beaten, then taken to the toilets. To save myself from the beatings, I’d give in to the abuse. Once I saw a senior abuse another junior. I spoke up about it. The repercussion was terrible. When I was in Class vii, I felt suicidal. That’s when I began to write.

I wrote a story, I still remember, called Apekshit. I was the youngest in my class, the prodigal, but always very good at my work. But when my teacher read the story, he said, this can’t be genuine. I looked up the word in the dictionary — the Hindi-speaking gunk in an elite English school — and that became my burden for life. I was thwarted at every turn. I excelled anyway. But every achievement became a joke.

I was filled with a black anger. I became numb. It was difficult for me to make friends. The worst of it is, when I was in Class xii, I tried to do the same to another junior. But I couldn’t complete what I had begun. When I hit him, he started crying.

I became weak. I tried talking to my father. He couldn’t deal with it. Years later, in Bombay, when I was 20, I told him again. We drank together then and cried.

Shall i inherit the world? Kashyap on the sets of Gulaal

Lage Raho Munnabhai makes me insanely
jealous, but it also sets me thinking. There are lighter ways of doing the same things. Perhaps I am too intense, black
My turning point came in 1993. I had joined the Jan Natya Manch while in college. Those years were a haze of beer and pot and anger. Then Moloyshree Hashmi and Joy Sengupta urged me to catch a de Sica retrospective. That changed my life. Cinema became my cocoon. Two months later, I left for Bombay. It was raining. I had Rs 6,000 in my pocket. I spent eight months on the street, sleeping on beaches, hanging around outside Prithvi Theatre for work and a night out of the rain. My most permanent shelter those days was the space below the water tank in the Four Bungalows complex in Andheri. Then, I wrote a play and people began noticing me. People like Makarand Deshpande, Mahendra Joshi, Shivam Nair, Sudhir Mishra, Ram Gopal Varma and Amol Gupte infused hope and faith into my life. They were my mentors; my proof of generosity.

Just before I finished Paanch, I began to talk of my years of abuse to people around me. It released me from the fear and shame. It allowed people to share their experiences with me. Scindia was hell for me. To survive in that school was the biggest struggle of my life. But my childhood shaped everything, it made me who I am today. Gave me my worldview.

I am now shooting a new film called No Smoking – a funny, Kafkaesque thriller about a chain smoker who gets into a rehab programme to save his marriage. My influences are David Fincher, de Sica, Wong Kar Wai, Scorsese. It is not staple Bollywood, but I am hopeful. I see things changing. Films like Omkara, Rang De Basanti, Khosla Ka Ghosla, and Lage Raho Munnabhai are proof of that. A film like Lage Raho makes me insanely jealous, but it also sets me thinking. There are other lighter ways of doing the same things. Perhaps I am too intense, black. Too ridden by demons. Javed Akhtar says anger gives way to cynicism, then to humour. For me, that last transition still remains. We think we can change the world — we can’t. But with humour, people understand more.

Now, when the blackness comes upon me, I take off to some part of the world, anywhere that I can lose myself till I find the willpower to return. My wife understands what I go through though it is painful for her. But it is my 6-year-old daughter who keeps me grounded and forces me to look at myself afresh.

John Berendt: “When Barcelona’s opera house burned down two years before La Fenice; they built an brand new modern opera house, because they’re a forward looking modern city, as well as a city with a big past. But Venice couldn’t do it, La Fenice was rebuilt practically brick by brick to resemble the original. History is the franchise you see.”

It is also possibly another reason why there’s been so little outcry over the way Ezra Pound’s widow Olga was allegedly swindled out of a large quantity of the author’s papers by a pair of American expatriates, heavily featured in City of Falling Angels. But it is the lack of justice in the trial of the La Fenice culprits that brings a telling note of exasperation into the author’s voice.

John Berendt: “The Mayor of Venice, Massimo Cacciari was warned by letter twice by the Prefect during the renovations of La Fenice before it burnt, that because he’d drained the canal around it, something you do every 40 years or so to dredge it, clean it and rebuild the walls, that he had to provide an alternate source of water should there be a fire. He ignored both letters but had there been an alternate source of water available on the night of the fire, fireman could have put the flames out, long before it did the kind of damage it did. If there had been water, the fire might not even have made it as far as the theatre hall. The mayor is no question, single-handedly responsible for the extent of the fire, not the fire itself, but the extent of it, because they couldn’t put it out on time. This is mismanagement on a grand scale.”

Oct 07 , 2006


Found text from: http://www.naachgaana.com/2006/10/4/cat ... -interview

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I am left speechless after reading this. This man has so much to tell but unfortunately no avenue to tell it thru. It is people like Anurag Kashyap who I feel are the only hope for the future of Indian cinema and in a way for society as a whole. A society in which people stand up for what they believe in and are not afraid to speak their mind, to share their experiences, no matter how embarassing and humiliating the experiences might be. My respect for this man has grown ten fold today and I wish we will have the opportunity to see his work soon. In fact I wish I had the money to fund all of his ideas and movies. The irony is that bollywood keeps complaining of the lack of good writers while people like Anurag Kashyap find no work or takers for their work. Shame on you bollywood, shame on you.

PS: I think the last three paragraphs (about the Opera house and all) of the above article are not really part of Anurag's interview and have inadvertantly been added at the end.


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I believe the Supreme Court of India has finally given it's clearance to the release of 'Black Friday' now that the verdicts in the 'Bombay blast' case have been delivered (actually in the process of being delivered). The film should finally see the light of day once all the verdicts have been handed out, which ought to be in a couple of more weeks.

Does anyone know what is happening with the release of 'Paanch'? I thought Boney Kapoor had bought it a while ago and with his new found success (money) from 'No Entry' he should not have had a problem releasing the film. So how come there is still no news of it's release?


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bhaskar wrote:

See all tall claims of filmmakers fighting against piracy go out of the window when the same people blatantly copy Hollywood films and call them their own. We pirate ideas so what's the big deal? After all isn't it "intellectual piracy"?

In your low times were there any instances when you thought of venturing into so called mainstream cinema?
Never. Because I just can't relate to the kind of films being made currently. The day I feel that I can, I would join the league, but presently that day doesn't seem in sight. The problem is that even today number of film makers come to me with the DVDs of Hollywood movies and want me to remake them in Hindi. Sorry, but that's not my cup of tea.


Wow! We finally have a REAL director we can be proud of. I look forward to seeing more of his films, but I do also believe that the general Indian public are not all interested in truly great films and actually prefer nonsense mass entertainers instead. Anruag would do well in Parallel Cinema and I can imagine his films doing well at film festivals, though he may even be good with the new 'alternative' bollywood films such as Ab tak chappan, Yahaan, Apaharan, Omkara etc. Films that are still bollywood but more serious and well done


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I have unfortunately not had a chance to see any of Anurag Kashyap's films, but based on what I have heard about how good they are and that too from some of the most respected film makers in India, I can't help but wonder, could India have actually stood a chance at an Oscar if only his films had been released and more importantly chosen and sent as India's official entry. We all know it is one thing to make an Oscar worthy film but entirely an impossible task for such a film to be chosen by the idiots in bollywood as the official entry. The only reason why 'Rang De Basanti' was chosen this year instead of 'KALANK' oops I mean't 'KANK', is that Aamir Khan was in 'Rang De Basanti'.


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I am left speechless after reading this. This man has so much to tell but unfortunately no avenue to tell it thru. It is people like Anurag Kashyap who I feel are the only hope for the future of Indian cinema and in a way for society as a whole. A society in which people stand up for what they believe in and are not afraid to speak their mind, to share their experiences, no matter how embarassing and humiliating the experiences might be. My respect for this man has grown ten fold today and I wish we will have the opportunity to see his work soon. In fact I wish I had the money to fund all of his ideas and movies. The irony is that bollywood keeps complaining of the lack of good writers while people like Anurag Kashyap find no work or takers for their work. Shame on you bollywood, shame on you.


I felt the same things when reading it. Whether or no BF and Paanch are good films, they are no doubt more interesting than the pablum currently being churned out. Unfortunately it seems as if any social element has to be blunted and simplistic preaching to the choir and/or so wrapped in masala as to dilute its impact and become a mere engine for plot. RDB was a surprisingly dark exception for a mainstream film, and I doubt it would have gone far without the star power of Aamir Khan. Haven't seen LRM yet.


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An online diary from Anurag Kashyap :o - only 2 entries so far...

http://passionforcinema.com/author/anurag/

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