It is currently Sun Nov 16, 2025 9:04 pm

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 59 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:08 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:53 pm
Posts: 14989
Yes!! but using same criteria, being used for Andaaz, did recover its cost from some where? possibly..according to ghaii's accounts! :baaa: ??? :hmm:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 3:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2001 7:27 pm
Posts: 6146
Arsh, what's your report on BHOOT theatrical audio. Did you get to see it in DD, DTS or in back-up analog??

Here in Toronto, at best only analog Dolby is avail at Woodside/ Albion. Don't know if these theatres have any analog surrond.

I can bet, proper Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS will add a lot to the BHOOT experience.

Rana


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2001 3:16 am
Posts: 4259
DVD Collector wrote:
The only beef I have to share is that, I would have liked this film more had I been sitting with a more mature group of audience members who had nothing better to do but laugh & make jokes during certain parts of the film while totally ignoring the fact that they were watching a "supernatural thriller" and not your typical bollywood melodrama(which I assume is what most had expected, some I've even noticed were flabbergasted to see no songs from this film).

Were you and I in the same theater? I had the same experience. Bunch of idiots. A few people brought young kids.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:35 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:53 pm
Posts: 14989
I saw in PROPER DD 5.1, administration, could not get DTS print?

But, sound was amazingly GOOD, for a HINDI film, enhancing the ambience of film..

In my theatre, it was Half Full, with mostly, Geek looking, young and even old, all seemed to enjoy...Good audience!!

Only, one young kid, that prob parents could not find any one to leave behind, so for $5 bring in!!

I had to deposit my young ones, at a friend's house as they bluntly refused to accompany.." we can only watch a bhoot film, if GOVINDA is dressed like BHOOT, and Johny lever, doing funny(stupid) things..." May be I can SRK in that category too..

But, Even it is PG rated, at the most PG 13, I dont think, this film is meant to be seen by kids, just for THEMATIC reasons..though, on DVD my kids did watch KAUN, @home..not in theatre!!

Film, does not have any VOILENCE, GRAPHIC details, and Blood shed!at all...To me it is NOT QUITE HORROR for me either!! But I prob have HIGH STNDARDS?

Generally, speaking I dont like HORROR films, Just sake of Watching Horror!!

But in this BHOOT, Bhoots and Bhootni's dont sing and dance in dream sequences..ha ha!!

Urmila, looks very CHIC!! Ajay looks good in GOTTY too..

Rekha, you wont believe me! She looks younger than AJAY DEVGAN, not younger than Urmila though..

If any one has a Taste for DIFFERENT but GOOD FILMS..you owe your self SCREENING of BHOOT, IMHO..

I equally enjoyed bHOOT and FINDING NEMO..that I had to show to my kids to compensate( There were a large number of kidless Couples only of various agre groups, watching NEMO..amazing, how disney attracts audiences..it was same for TOY STORY!!0 Unbelievable!! Charm!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 8:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 10:38 pm
Posts: 408
arsh wrote:
..amazing, how disney attracts audiences..it was same for TOY STORY!!0 Unbelievable!! Charm!

Apparently its both Disney and Pixar that attracts audiences. I read somewhere lots of afults watch Pixar films because the stories are good in Pixar films even though its cartoons

Pixar's contract with Disney ends with this (5 film contract). Apparently they are looking for a better deal for their next contract


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 10:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2001 3:16 am
Posts: 4259
jag wrote:
arsh wrote:
..amazing, how disney attracts audiences..it was same for TOY STORY!!0 Unbelievable!! Charm!

Apparently its both Disney and Pixar that attracts audiences. I read somewhere lots of afults watch Pixar films because the stories are good in Pixar films even though its cartoons

Pixar's contract with Disney ends with this (5 film contract). Apparently they are looking for a better deal for their next contract

Pixar's films pull in huge grosses, so they deserve a bigger piece of the pie. I haven't liked any of Disney's recent animated output besides Emperor's New Groove and Lilo and Stitch, and apparently the audiences don't particularly care for them either. Atlantis and Treasure Planet didn't do so well at the box office.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 6:13 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 11:01 pm
Posts: 2070
Location: Toronto, Canada
DragunR2 wrote:
DVD Collector wrote:
The only beef I have to share is that, I would have liked this film more had I been sitting with a more mature group of audience members who had nothing better to do but laugh & make jokes during certain parts of the film while totally ignoring the fact that they were watching a "supernatural thriller" and not your typical bollywood melodrama(which I assume is what most had expected, some I've even noticed were flabbergasted to see no songs from this film).

Were you and I in the same theater? I had the same experience. Bunch of idiots. A few people brought young kids.

Actually, during the showing I saw Bhoot. The hall was mostly filled with young couples and groups of teenage guys and girls. And its sad that these people weren't willing to accept there own self's differently, that being, they couldn't take a different genre, neo-bollywood filmmaking too there likings. That too of something from domestic production. But at the same time, the same people will go nuts over the same thing produced in Hollywood. It's a fucking regressive world out-there. I remember one girl saying to her friend after the film was over "there were no songs! this sucked".

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 1:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2001 12:45 pm
Posts: 500
Location: Singapore
Quote:
Aryan

Quote
The sound mix was pretty good, and I saw a location sound mixer credit, so I assume that it used sync sound.


Not all films which credit location sound recordists actually use location sound in the final mix. Most Indian filmmakers have on location recordists to record 'guide tracks'. I'll have to watch this one to confirm. For most avid movie and home theatre enthusiasts, it should be fairly easy to distinguish location sound from ADR - especially if they listen to more quality English and other international films instead of the largely garish, attention seeking sound mix of most Indian films.

Quote:
Arsh T
Theatric DD 5.1 sound was EXTREMELY GOOD!! enhancing bACK GROUND sound!! Sound mixer, did EXCELLENT JOB!!

This is FIRST FILM with SYNC sound, that all DIOLOGUES were NICELY AUDIBLE at same LEVEL, throughout!


I just watched this film. This film did not use any sync sound. Nonetheless, pretty good sound design.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:35 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:53 pm
Posts: 14989
I will agree with you ARYAN, every film, I saw with SYNC SOUND, NEVER HAD, such, nicely, EVENED OUT DIOLOGUES, Volume, mix..So, If this was SYNC SOUND, then it was PERFECT? But as you saying, it was not? That seems like RIGHT!!

Bollywood..Hollywood, Lagaan, ARMAAN< DCH...none of them had this kinda sound recording/mix


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 7:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2001 3:26 pm
Posts: 2253
Location: Birmingham
I saw Bhoot yesterday......and all I can say is thank God Bollywood has Ram Gopal Verma. He's shown how to make a routine story into a great movie - this is the best Hindi movie I've seen this year easily. The bad thing about it was the drive home afterwards..........I was convinced my gears would start changing on their own.........


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2001 12:45 pm
Posts: 500
Location: Singapore
Quote:
arsh Posted on June 03 2003,11:35
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will agree with you ARYAN, every film, I saw with SYNC SOUND, NEVER HAD, such, nicely, EVENED OUT DIOLOGUES, Volume, mix..So, If this was SYNC SOUND, then it was PERFECT? But as you saying, it was not? That seems like RIGHT!!

Bollywood..Hollywood, Lagaan, ARMAAN< DCH...none of them had this kinda sound recording/mix

BH had a very typical small, intimate Hollywood movie kind of mix. In real life, people don't always talk at the same volume and other sounds are also not at the same amplitude. It is generally accepted by most sound designers that this should be emulated to an extent in filmmaking, resulting in dramatic dynamic effects in good cinema halls and home theatre systems. Indian movie ADR in my opinion, is rather flat in terms of dialogue dynamics, including Bhoot, though it is innovative in the use of effects and silences. Not to mention, it is inevitable that ADR films in India will have some amount of lip syncing problems, because sound designers are never given enough time to perfect the mix by editing dialogue digitally to fit lip movement like Hollywood does. As such, Indian movie sound can never be on par with Hollywood as far as aesthetics are concerned. To simplify this problem, I wish Indian filmmakers would just use sync sound instead.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2003 12:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:53 pm
Posts: 14989
Now FAT LADY Sang:

A few chills; lots of teases

Sonia Chopra


http://www.screenindia.com/fullstory.ph ... nt_id=4219


An unsuspecting couple, a haunted house, shady characters and the eternal conflict between science and superstition. Bhoot combines the usual clichés of horror film in a potpourri generously sprinkled with Ram Gopal Varma’s inimitable style.

Young couple, Vishal and Swati moves into a new home where a girl, Manjeet is rumoured to have committed suicide. While Vishal is nonchalant about it, Swati is immediately uncomfortable. Over the next few days, Swati sees glimpses of a young girl in the mirror and begins sleepwalking. A worried Vishal tries to convince her and himself that this is just a psychiatric problem. Enter Dr.Rajan (Victor Banerjee) who is also bewildered by Swati’s condition and vaguely pins it as ‘multiple personality disorder’ (it’s assumed that the viewer knows what MPD means). Meanwhile, the building watchman is found gruesomely murdered and Inspector Liyaqat Qureshi (Nana Patekar) has a hunch that the ‘mysteriously ill’ Swati is the killer.

In a scene straight out of a dozen horror films, Swati gets possessed by Manjeet’s spirit. A desperate Vishal seeks the help of Sarita (Rekha) a spirit-medium who speaks to Manjeet and even seeks out her mother Mrs. Khosla (Tanuja). Turns out, Manjeet was murdered and she’s out to get revenge.

The no-song format definitely works in the film’s favour. However, while the first half of the film juggles its limited characters leisurely, the second half is a claustrophobic contrast. With far too many characters crammed in a limited screen time, the viewers are neither able to acquaint nor empathise with the characters. Nana Patekar, Rekha, Fardeen Khan and Tanuja are lost in this over-crowded cameo brigade. More often than not, the film offers a tease rather than a genuine scare. The music and camera angles ready the viewer for a spine-chiller only to reveal a dud. Even the characters, like the eccentric housemaid and a mysterious white-haired lady, serve as teasers.

As in all horror films, music plays a pivotal role. Composers Salim-Sulaiman and sound designer Dwarak Warrier take the viewer towards the edge of their seats ever so often. Cinematography and art direction are competent. Victor Banerjee is a good casting choice. Ajay Devgan plays the concerned husband to the hilt and gives an impressive, restrained performance. However, Bhoot is Urmila’s show all the way. Her rendering of a loving wife to a violent possessed woman evokes both sympathy and fright.

Bhoot is undoubtedly one of the better Hindi horror films, largely elevated by its star cast and performances. A must for fans of the thrill-chill genre.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Edited By arsh on 1054945704


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 3:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:53 pm
Posts: 14989
My friend and gur, M.Ali Ikram from PB.com/indolink:

"M. Ali Ikram" <aliikram@rogers.com> wrote:
> I'd give it 8.8/10. Agreed with you about it not
> being as scary as hoped.
> Kaun was alot scarier than Bhoot. (I'd give Kaun
> 9.4/10.)
> But the cast in this one, and the scenes were more
> complex and interesting.
> I luved Inspector Liaqat Qureshi and Rekha's
> character. Wish the latter was
> more developed tho.
> Bhoot has still gotta be the best film so far this
> year. Everything else
> pales in comparison.
>
> Ali.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:48 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2001 11:01 pm
Posts: 2070
Location: Toronto, Canada
DragunR2 wrote:
mhafner wrote:
So, what are the best horror films then (Indian or not Indian)? Some of my favourites:
- Rosemary's Baby (1968) (the premise is the same as in Bhoot sans the baby)
- Repulsion (Polanski) (psychological horror)
- Aliens and Alien (Scifi Horror)
- The Others (psychological horror)
- Psycho (supense horror)
- Peeping Tom (psychological horror)
- Scream (slasher horror)

The Haunting (original Robert Wise version)
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (black and white, don't know who directed)
Nosferatu (Murnau)

Three of the best horror films ever made are Murnau's silent Nosferatu from 1922 with Max Schreck and Werner Herzog's excellent 1979 remake titled, Nosferatu the Vampyre starring Klaus Kinski. And perhaps the mother of all horror films ---> "The Innocents" :O

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 59 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group