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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:29 pm 
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as you all must know all bollywood movies unlike hollywood are splitted in 2 parts......ie pre interval and post interval and i have been noticing from long time that why the dvd/blu rays authoring companies or distributors crop the point of interval...........except yash raj every company is involved in this practice......this spoils the whole scene..........the music during interval point is on a high note and suddenly the scene changes it breaks the flow...............my question to industry insiders like mr chandna or sunny is why do you do this........whats the point in cutting the length of the movie.........?????

any inputs from anyone in this topic will be appreciated.....!!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:08 pm 
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+1 ... I am completely with you on this divyansh, Thanks for starting a fresh topic for this - A very serious issue from my side (although not as big as the watermark issue that with help of Sanjay has been resolved to agreat extent now. ). I am 100% in favour of display of interval on BDs.

For your reference, below is the excerpt of a discussion with mr Chandna on MNIK thread.

Anurag1700 wrote:
schandna wrote:
Normally we are instructed to delete interval frames from the sources while encoding. The reason -Interval is for theatrical interval. Home viewers don't need interval, they can pause the movie any time and any number of times during the movie and enjoy not only home made popcorns but Snacks/Paranthas/ and have drinks while watching the movie on their home theaters
movie.
Let me know if you want some improvements in future releases.
Regards
Chandna


Mr. Chandna, Thanks for the active response and participation - Genuinely appreciated- this is what makes u the best BD maker for Bollywood.

I understand your reason for removing the interval word from frame and the justification is valid in many cases . But in Future encodes, please make a note of the following:-

1) I believe that unlike hollywood films, Interval is very well planned for a bollywood film. It is a point in screenplay when the writer deliberately wants our listening skills to go on a break. This helps in better understanding of flow of the film in the second half. Cases in which people have not watched the film in theatre already, and are genuinely interested in re-living the film with the director's intended interval pause in their home theatre, would not come to know where is the interval without its display and may end up ruining the flow of screenplay for themselves by pausing at wrong place. Yes I know some may argue that who cares for anyone's opinion once the film is out of theatre but thats where us genuine movie fans at zulm and blu ray forum differ from the so called 'time-passers'.

Btw, in case of MNIK, the movie goes comfortably dark at two places suggesting that both could have been intervals- the original one when Khan is sitting at the bus stop writing his diary and the second- Just before the song Noor-E Khuda begins. Both are seemingly valid places for interval assumption for Home theatre owners.

2) Secondly, If this is something you cannot change, and interval has to be deleted in all ur BDs, then at least while removing the interval frame, please be careful to not to cut the scene in any audio-visual way. The best example is Ghajini BD- even without the display of word, the interval point is obvious because the music volume at that point reduces suddenly and the scene intercuts beforetime to next scene very abruptly. Please make sure this does not happen for any BD in future. Although I must admit i still donno whats the interval point for WUS as I did not watch it in theatre and there was no sudden cut visible on BD.

I personally would prefer to watch the interval word displaying on BDs- Other than the reason of giving break to myself at that point, also just to appreciate the filmmaker's intention and feel that the BD is truly 100.00 % representation of theatrical master.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:16 am 
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Anurag1700 wrote:
+1 ... I am completely with you on this divyansh, Thanks for starting a fresh topic for this - A very serious issue from my side (although not as big as the watermark issue that with help of Sanjay has been resolved to agreat extent now. ). I am 100% in favour of display of interval on BDs.

For your reference, below is the excerpt of a discussion with mr Chandna on MNIK thread.

Anurag1700 wrote:
schandna wrote:
Normally we are instructed to delete interval frames from the sources while encoding. The reason -Interval is for theatrical interval. Home viewers don't need interval, they can pause the movie any time and any number of times during the movie and enjoy not only home made popcorns but Snacks/Paranthas/ and have drinks while watching the movie on their home theaters
movie.
Let me know if you want some improvements in future releases.
Regards
Chandna


Mr. Chandna, Thanks for the active response and participation - Genuinely appreciated- this is what makes u the best BD maker for Bollywood.

I understand your reason for removing the interval word from frame and the justification is valid in many cases . But in Future encodes, please make a note of the following:-

1) I believe that unlike hollywood films, Interval is very well planned for a bollywood film. It is a point in screenplay when the writer deliberately wants our listening skills to go on a break. This helps in better understanding of flow of the film in the second half. Cases in which people have not watched the film in theatre already, and are genuinely interested in re-living the film with the director's intended interval pause in their home theatre, would not come to know where is the interval without its display and may end up ruining the flow of screenplay for themselves by pausing at wrong place. Yes I know some may argue that who cares for anyone's opinion once the film is out of theatre but thats where us genuine movie fans at zulm and blu ray forum differ from the so called 'time-passers'.

Btw, in case of MNIK, the movie goes comfortably dark at two places suggesting that both could have been intervals- the original one when Khan is sitting at the bus stop writing his diary and the second- Just before the song Noor-E Khuda begins. Both are seemingly valid places for interval assumption for Home theatre owners.

2) Secondly, If this is something you cannot change, and interval has to be deleted in all ur BDs, then at least while removing the interval frame, please be careful to not to cut the scene in any audio-visual way. The best example is Ghajini BD- even without the display of word, the interval point is obvious because the music volume at that point reduces suddenly and the scene intercuts beforetime to next scene very abruptly. Please make sure this does not happen for any BD in future. Although I must admit i still donno whats the interval point for WUS as I did not watch it in theatre and there was no sudden cut visible on BD.

I personally would prefer to watch the interval word displaying on BDs- Other than the reason of giving break to myself at that point, also just to appreciate the filmmaker's intention and feel that the BD is truly 100.00 % representation of theatrical master.


i truly appreciate your support and contributaion towards this topik......!!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:28 am 
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All Ayngaran Blu-rays have interval points as shown on the cinema. No cropping is done.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:52 am 
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Shahran Sunny Audit wrote:
All Ayngaran Blu-rays have interval points as shown on the cinema. No cropping is done.

Now if only Ayngaran were to start releasing Hindi blu-rays.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:41 am 
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Sanjay wrote:
Shahran Sunny Audit wrote:
All Ayngaran Blu-rays have interval points as shown on the cinema. No cropping is done.

Now if only Ayngaran were to start releasing Hindi blu-rays.


+1

I seriously think why they are not in the authoring business for Bollywood?


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