ksingh wrote:
The old surround amps with DD & DTS will not be able to play out HDaudio stream and if they want to play out through the old amps then they will have to do so by using analogue 5.1 cable connections and not optical or co-axial digital connections.
What Victor wrote back was correct on the type of cables needed.
Please read my previous post again, for I fail to understand which part of my previous post did you not understand? What Victor wrote back, is
MOSTLY INCORRECT. There is absolutely no reason why people with "old amps" cannot continue to use optical & co-axial connections. They only need to use analog 5.1 cables if they want to benefit from the HD audio formats. The only part he is correct about, is that "old surround amps with DD & DTS will not play out HDaudio stream" but so what, they are not going to get HD audio in any case since Yash Raj in their infinite wisdom decided to not include lossless HD audio on thier most coveted all time top 10 titles. Who wants to bet they did this so that they can sell you the same titles again with lossless sound.
Why is it that you people continue to try and find excuses and/or try to justify these companies decisions to keep shafting their customers? As stated in my previous post,
EVERYONE benefits from having a lossless 'DTS-HD Master Audio' track on the Blu-ray disc and this includes people with old amps.
ksingh wrote:
With that being a valid point the majority of people in India are using older receivers which do not support or have HDMI which is needed for the newer HD audio codecs.
So once again we have someone suggesting that it is the 'lowest common denominator', which should determine the technical aspects of DVDs and/or BDs. Well, by your logic, since the vast majority, by a big margin, of people in India still use 'old televisions' that are not capable of handling even 480p resolution, therefore Yash Raj should only have 480i video on their BDs. Also, I think they have really screwed up by including DD or DTS on the BDs, since the VAST MAJORITY od Indians don't even have "old amps" and in fact their televisions don't even have RCA audio connectors, thus from now on Yash Raj should only have Mono PCM sound on their BDs.
Instead of focusing on the average (vast majority) of Indians it would make a lot more marketing sense to look at the potential BD customer only. This customer by the way is in no way behind in terms of technology or purchasing power and is at par with customers from any other country in the world. In any case, can you please point out even one reason why
any customer would suffer by adding lossless HD audio to a BD. Does it not make more sense to have 'DTS-HD Master Audio' tracks on all BDs, that way those that have HD audio equipment can benefit immediately and even those with only "old amps" can benefit from the higher bitrate DTS 1.5mbps core audio stream right now and then when they upgrade to a 'new HD audio' equipment they can also get the full benefits of the lossless HD audio track. Ofcourse there are those, such as myself, who although don't have a 'HD audio receiver' are still able to benefit from lossless HD audio by using BD players that have built in HD audio decoders and analog outs. In fact even when I could not benefit from the HD audio tracks, ie when I was using the PS3 as my BD player, I still only bought BD titles that had HD audio. Just because I cannot benefit from a feature now does not mean, that I would like to buy all my BDs again, once I am equiped to benefit from that feature.
Bottom line Yash Raj has very cleverly left out HD audio from their first, marquee, all time top ten titles, so that they can resell you the same title again a few yrs later with lossless HD audio. Shame on you Yash Raj, but then this is to be expected from the Bollywood video industry, which time and time again has shafted it's customers. The sorry part is, that there are customers who actually make up excuses on their behalf. Also if you don't care about HD Audio, or are not equiped for it, you can always continue to buy DVDs.
PS: Even today the vast majority of televisions in use in the number one market, USA, are still standard definition only. But that does not mean companies should not be marketing to those customers who are equiped to benefit from Blu-ray and it's superior video & AUDIO. Lest in escapes your attention, let me point out that the number of people who are equiped with "new receivers & pre/pros" that can handle HD audio is very small even in the US.