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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:44 pm 
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I found Premshastra, uphaar, kaalicharan, anjaana on DVD5(SL)

TOOFAN..DL
BOYFRIEND..DL
LOAFER..DL
RAHUL..DL
CHARAS..DL
DNPYK..DL
SUHAAG..DL
PREETAM..DL
DHDM..DL
HANSTE ZAKHM..DL(RANA FOUND IT SL)
AVTAAR..DL
RAAT AUR DIN..DL
SHAKTI..SL( RANA FOUND IT DL)
PREMSHASTRA..SL
UPHAAR..SL
KALICHARAN..SL
ANJAANA SL
ROTI..DL
2001 SL
DAMINI DL
TEESRA KAUN..SL
SHART(RAINBOW /WEG) DL.
DNPYK..DL
RAHUL ..DL(2 Disc)
DAULAT KI JUNG(aamir/Juhi)..SL

NAMAK HARAM 9WEG/MOVIEBOX) DL
NISHCHAIY DL

AMRIT/GENTLEMAN that I'll call worse than VHS or same!!


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I have been adding info about SL/ DL in my post (incl info by others) in page 1. (so far reached 'G' 'H').
When finished, I'll bring it to current page.

Or, if someone wants to use the info and summarize it, please feel free.


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Summary/ Update:

Please edit/ correct/ update/ comments. Thanks.

rana wrote:
I'm transferring titles from prev posts, adding a few new titles here, deleting duplicated entries in my earlier posts:

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Also, restating the best of the lot
(A few of the Anamorphic ones could be brought into this category from "among the better ones"

(Progressive):

Ajooba --- DL (Mostly Rotten discs.)
Hogi Pyar Ki Jeet -- DL
Jai Hind----- DL
Safari --- DL
Toofaan ---- DL
Yeh Hai Mumbai Meri Jaan ----- DL

Anamoprphic:
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JamesBond007 wrote:
rana wrote:
JamesBond007 wrote:
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And, the worst than 4th Gen VHS ones:

Aap Aaye Bahaar Aayee ----- SL
Heer Ranjha ---- SL
Ijaazat ---- SL
Namak Haraam (here or average categ. ) ---- SL (DL version in Better Lot Category)
Teri Meharbaniyan ----SL
Gentleman

Aurat Aurat Aurat
Nishchaiy
Raat Aur Din --- DL
Amir Garib

Saajan Chale Sasural DL (Rana saw 5 GB version & will put it between this and Average category. May fit on SL if no commercials; DL DVD found has rotten & is unplayable in 2nd layer)


JamesBond007 wrote:
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Average ones

Agneepath --- DL
Aakhri Daao --- DL (But, barely playable in 2nd layer. Did succeed though)

Aaj Ka Goondaraj -- DL
Aag (Govinda) --- SL
Akayla --- DL
Arjun Deva --- DL
Anari (Raj Kapoor) --- DL
Andolan --- DL
Biwi # 2 ---- DL
Chacha Bhatija --- SL
Chhal --- DL (Perhaps could be in 'Better Lot' ?? Film is mostly dark scenes, like Company, so difficult to decide.)
Damini ---- DL
Dhanwaan (Ajay Karishma, Manisha) --- SL
Do Dilon Ki Daastan --- SL
Ehsaas --- SL
Gunaah-------------- DL
Kishen Kanhaiyya ---- DL
Khuda Kasam ---- DL
Pyar Koi Khel Nahin -----DL
Pyar Zindagi Hai
Sargam ----- SL (moved here from better categ)
Sadak ---- DL (Spark version is a lot better)
Sahib Bahadur --- DL (PQ varies a lot, from worst to pretty good)
Saazish --- SL
Suryavanshi -- DL (Moved from 'better lot' category before to 'average')
Tum Hasin Main Jawan ---- DL
Jai Santoshi Maa (EVP one is Progressive and is far better)
Zulmi --- DL

Dil Kya Kare
Gautam Govinda
Devi
Dil Ki Baazi
Isi Ka Naam Zindagi


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among the better WEG lot

Aankhein (Govinda) --- DL
Aflatoon -- SL
Anjaana --- SL (and still in this categ ??)
Arjun Pandit ---- DL
Boom --- SL
Bairaag --- DL
Do Anjaane ---- DL
Chor Machaaye Shor (Shashi Kapoor Mumtaaz) ---DL
Chura Liya Hai Tumne --- DL
Chura Liya Hai Tumne Jo Dil Ko --- DL
Dil Hi Dil Mein --- DL
Dil Hi To Hai (Jackie, Divya) --- DL
Do Chor -- DL
Haqeeqat ---- DL
Hum Pyar Tumhi Se Kar Baithe --- DL plus extras disc
International Crook -- DL
Indian Babu ----- DL
Izzatdar --- DL
Ishq Qayamat --- DL
Jheel Ke Us Paar ----------DL
Kaboo ---- DL
Kyon Ki -------DL
Kaise Kahoon Ke Pyar Hai -- DL
Loafer ---- DL
Lootere ------ DL
Mehbooba ---- DL
Namak Haraam --- DL (SL version in Worst than 4th Gen VHS category)
Namkeen -- SL (WEG version ends, in the middle of a song, abruptly 29 min before the T-Series version Film End. T-Series version is unwatchable but for story sake, perhaps this is the only option avail)
Oh darling Yeh Hai India --- DL
Paap -----------DL
Papa The Great ----- DL
Preetam ----- DL
Rahul ---- DL
Raghu More Bachelor Of Hearts (Hinglish; mainly English)-- DL (If you call this a film)
Roti --- DL
Sanam Tere Hain Hum ---- DL
Saaheb (in this or in Average category) ---- DL
Supari ----DL
Suhaag --- DL
Sangharsh (Preity Zinta) --DL
Samundar ----DL
Shakti --- DL (Shakti SL has been seen as well with PQ worst than 4th gen VHS category)
Tum Jiyo Hazaaron Saal -- DL
Yeh Dil --- DL
Yeh Lamhe Judaai Ke ---- DL

Sultan
Taaqat
Rog
Beta
Daag The Fire
Jism
Dil Ki Chori
Sunny
Sauda

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Category yet to decide:


I'm copying Layer Info here. Pl fill in Category:

BOYFRIEND..DL
Charas ---- DL
Dil Ne Phir Yaad Kiya ---- DL
Dil Hi Dil Mein --- DL
Hanste Zakhm ---- SL and also DL
AVTAAR..DL
PREMSHASTRA..SL
UPHAAR..SL
KALICHARAN..SL
2001 --- SL (Is it songs DVD ??
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Not sure:

Rajtilak I got UDI version and that's crap. I think, I saw WEG listing of Rajtilak.


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I found Akayla TNT Version (authored by Shemaroo) on the weekend .. I tried backing it up but at the 56% mark it crashes .. via DVD Decryp or DVD Fab VTS 1_2 is corrupted. Yet when I play and fast forward the movie on my standalong it scans through fine. The print is decent, I will post some screen shots later.


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My WEG DVD of Akayla (decent transfer) used to work almost fine, skipping here and there; now, like a half hour of the film (near the middle) just won't play. I fucking abhor deteriorating Hindi-film DVDs.


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arsh wrote:
DvdRetailer wrote:
What about SADAK WEG Dvd? Is this progressive?


I saw SADAK by Spark, and print was unexpectedly good though!! If someone cares? we might do the honors of posting this spark version though? :roll:


I found WEG Sadak rental. It's not Progressive.

It's DL, Gold media but PQ is not that good. I put it in Average category above.

It'll be interesting to see which version, Spark or WEG, is beter.

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BTW, as you might have noticed, I have been and will keep on updating/ editing info, as I come across, in my post above without taking up a new post.


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Edited info about Aakhri Daao DVD. It differs from JB's assesment.

JB, please check and comment.

Thanks.


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rana wrote:
Edited info about Aakhri Daao DVD. It differs from JB's assesment.

JB, please check and comment.

Thanks.



Well I was going by memory! I took another look and had trouble on layer 2 too also. Found it to be interlaced and would now put it in average category, and not better category! :lol: This is how my copy looked below!

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Perhaps Ali Bhai can upload to Zulm server? [done! - Ali]


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JamesBond007 wrote:
rana wrote:
Edited info about Aakhri Daao DVD. It differs from JB's assesment.

JB, please check and comment.

Thanks.



Well I was going by memory! I took another look and had trouble on layer 2 too also. Found it to be interlaced and would now put it in average category, and not better category! :lol: This is how my copy looked


After looking at these shots, tried finding these shots playing DVD. Pq is that bad for these shots. But, it's also much better in other segments.
So, I too place this DVD in Average Category. "Worst than 4th Gen VHS" ones are much worst.

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BTW, comparing screen shots with DVD playing pic, it's obvious, these shots are not captured/ posted with proper AR. These are squished vertically.


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Good Job!! James!! Custom tailored presentation..lol :lol: :wink: :idea:


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But, it's also much better in other segments


Yeah, a small proportion mostly in second half! If you can get to it and capture some SS? We are talking about PQ here and not the AR, right? can wrong AR affect PQ? Anyway I asked Ali to recustomize (resize) for arsh to proper AR to keep him happy.


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JamesBond007 wrote:
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But, it's also much better in other segments


Yeah, a small proportion mostly in second half! If you can get to it and capture some SS? We are talking about PQ here and not the AR, right? can wrong AR affect PQ? Anyway I asked Ali to recustomize (resize) for arsh to proper AR to keep him happy.

I thought, I posted a comment here, but perhaps some internet glitch.

As you posted this comment, I saw it about the same time and the AR had been fixed. Different AR has nothing to do with picture quality.

WEG titles that we are calling average are "Average WEG", and will rate much worst against "Average DEI, Average YRF or Average EROS --- etc".

Even the "best of the lot (WEG)" ones that also turned out Progressive, are not that exceptional but we went gung ho about them because it was un-expected of WEG.


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Thanks for confirming that SS captured in the wrong AR does not affect PQ!

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WEG titles that we are calling average are "Average WEG", and will rate much worst against "Average DEI, Average YRF or Average EROS --- etc".

Even the "best of the lot (WEG)" ones that also turned out Progressive, are not that exceptional but we went gung ho about them because it was un-expected of WEG


Totally agreed with you on this! We are in the habit of rating one label against another and loosing sight that every label have their limitations! I said as much a long time ago. Here's an excerpt of a discussion I had with armaan.

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But it's important not to lose sight of the fact that opinions on dvds print transfers are subjective, just as opinion on the quality of the film's contents.




armaan you are so right and I agree 100%! Before I answer your question on Yeh Vaada Raha, let me explain the method I use to rate a dvd. Firstly, I try to avoid comparison between two labels for obvious reasons. Take for example, the worst DEI/BEI which I may rate as poor, and given the same quality on a different label such as BABA, I would rate it as excellent In other words I have different standards for different labels and as you know its very rare that you might find two labels on par! Every label have their expectations and limitations, once we understand that then we can then be as object or subjective to that particular brand to our hearts content.

So said, for Yeh Vaada Raha, as I mentioned I am partial to this movie and love the sound tract. The source used is not the greatest, yet not bad for Baba standard, as you may well know they make no attempt to restore or clean whatever prints they get their hands on. Expect slight wear and blemishes, the color at most is very good and the images are sharp. Use of DNR is evident but not as pronounced as let say Sanam Teri Kasam, had DEI/BEI put out something like this I would call it crap and a disaster! Understanding BaBa's limitation, I would therefore rate this as excellent . The bottom line is understanding the capabilities of any given label and establishing a standard for them. Sincerely hope you get an understanding of what I am talking about! ........."


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Has any one seen WEG Saazish and WEG Aap Beeti ?? How is the PQ ??

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BTW, as the info becomes avail, I've been updating WEG :Mixed Bag" list on page 2 of this thread.


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