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dvdisoil
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I dont know how to make it bigger!

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Are my eyes deceiving - It looks like the cropping is more than 5-10% . I already think 1.33:1 is a poor choice for the movie ( was widescreen not popular in the 60’s ?) and add cropping atop of it - this is terrible ! .

I might be pushing you here , but Arsh bhai can you post snapshots of color and B/W scenes (esp. scenes with Meenakumari - i seem to like her in B/W pics :p ) ?? .I love this movie ( it has grown on me really ) and to see such a treatment - Argh cannot digest it ! . BTW- what are the extras on the disk ??
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dvdisoil wrote:
Are my eyes deceiving - It looks like the cropping is more than 5-10% . I already think 1.33:1 is a poor choice for the movie ( was widescreen not popular in the 60’s ?) and add cropping atop of it - this is terrible !


Films were not widely shot in widescreen in India at this time. If Kaagaz Ke Phool had become a hit, then perhaps widescreen would have taken hold in the 60s itself.

The caps definitely do not look like they were cropped to widescreen then cropped on the sides again.

IIRC the first four shots posted are from the scenes originally in color, but the rest have that fakey colorized look :roll:
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DragunR2 wrote:
Films were not widely shot in widescreen in India at this time. If Kaagaz Ke Phool had become a hit, then perhaps widescreen would have taken hold in the 60s itself.



Ah the visionary Guru Dutt ...
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not the screenshots arsh the eros logo in the corner during the movie
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Are my eyes deceiving - It looks like the cropping is more than 5-10% . I already think 1.33:1 is a poor choice for the movie ( was widescreen not popular in the 60’s ?) and add cropping atop of it - this is terrible ! .

I might be pushing you here , but Arsh bhai can you post snapshots of color and B/W scenes (esp. scenes with Meenakumari - i seem to like her in B/W pics :p ) ?? .I love this movie ( it has grown on me really ) and to see such a treatment - Argh cannot digest it ! . BTW- what are the extras on the disk ??


This film does not have Late Meena Kumari, but Madhubala!

black and White is from older Shemaroo version, I copied this shot from ali's review!!

i can see if I can capture a couple from older shemaroo version too, but that was last 30 minutes color to!

I know this film deserved widescreen, but may be K asif did not have access or Knowledge!

Pakeezah was shot in WS cinemascope!
I would love to see that print restored and remastered sound in OAR by some insan ka bacha! :x



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not the screenshots arsh the eros logo in the corner during the movie


I did not see any, but I have not seen the whole film yet!
I did not come across any ringtones Ad either!
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Muz
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I was wondering if they have released the full version of the movie on DVD - rather than the cut down version in the cinema. Does the DVD include the songs 'Hamen Kaash Tumse Mohabat Na Hoti', 'Bekas Pe Karam Kijiyai' and 'Ae Ishq Yeh Sab Duniya Walai'?

Thanks!
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dvdisoil
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arsh wrote:
This film does not have Late Meena Kumari, but Madhubala!


Damn - everytime i confuse their names, i meant madhubala and typed meenakumari ! :oops:
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Zoran009
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Muz wrote:
I was wondering if they have released the full version of the movie on DVD - rather than the cut down version in the cinema. Does the DVD include the songs 'Hamen Kaash Tumse Mohabat Na Hoti', 'Bekas Pe Karam Kijiyai' and 'Ae Ishq Yeh Sab Duniya Walai'?

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8 songs all together, including bekas pe karam!
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Zoran009
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dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
This film does not have Late Meena Kumari, but Madhubala!


Damn - everytime i confuse their names, i meant madhubala and typed meenakumari ! :oops:


I did send your Meena Kumari, AKA Madhubala's BW beauty to ali for your eyes only!
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Muz
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That means that there are 2 songs missing ... probably Hamen Kaash and Ae Ishq ... oh well I think that they will re-release this in a few months as a collectors edition!
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Zoran009
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Muz wrote:
That means that there are 2 songs missing ... probably Hamen Kaash and Ae Ishq ... oh well I think that they will re-release this in a few months as a collectors edition!


keeps your pockets ready!

shemaroo version has 9 songs though

it does include hamaen kash!

ae ishq yeh duniyawale, too, then how come 9 vs 8?
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arsh wrote:
dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
This film does not have Late Meena Kumari, but Madhubala!


Damn - everytime i confuse their names, i meant madhubala and typed meenakumari ! :oops:


I did send your Meena Kumari, AKA Madhubala's BW beauty to ali for your eyes only!


Thank You.

Just look at her (snagged from previous review)

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Muz
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All of the songs are listed below:

1) Mohe Panghat Pe
2) Pyar Kiya To Drana Kya
3) Mohabbat Ki Jhooti Kahani Pe Roye
4) Hamen Kaash Tumse
5) Bekas Pe Karam Kijiye
6) Teri Mehfil Mein Kismat Azamakar
7) Yeh Dil Ki Lagi Kum Kya Hogi
8) Ae Isqh Yeh Sab Duniyawale
9) Khuda Nigheban Ho Tumhara
10) Ae Mohabbat Zindabad

... and also there was the garden Tansen scene 'Prem Jogan Ban Ke.

When you say the Shemaroo version do you mean the original b/w version? That version has all of the songs listed above in it. :?
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Zoran009
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Muz wrote:
All of the songs are listed below:

1) Mohe Panghat Pe...yes
2) Pyar Kiya To Drana Kya..yes
3) Mohabbat Ki Jhooti Kahani Pe Roye..yes
4) Hamen Kaash Tumse..yes
5) Bekas Pe Karam Kijiye..yes
6) Teri Mehfil Mein Kismat Azamakar...yes
7) Yeh Dil Ki Lagi Kum Kya Hogi...(jab raat hai)..yes
8) Ae Isqh Yeh Sab Duniyawale.....yes
9) Khuda Nigheban Ho Tumhara
10) Ae Mohabbat Zindabad..yes

... and also there was the garden Tansen scene 'Prem Jogan Ban Ke.

prem jogan..is in new color version as one of 8

Hamen Kaash Tumse..missing in color version

Ae Isqh Yeh Sab Duniyawale.....missing in color

Khuda Nigheban Ho Tumhara..missing in action color



When you say the Shemaroo version do you mean the original b/w version? That version has all of the songs listed above in it. :?


shemaroo version missing khuda nigheban!
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dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
dvdisoil wrote:
arsh wrote:
This film does not have Late Meena Kumari, but Madhubala!


Damn - everytime i confuse their names, i meant madhubala and typed meenakumari ! :oops:


I did send your Meena Kumari, AKA Madhubala's BW beauty to ali for your eyes only!


Thank You.

Just look at her (snagged from previous review)

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quote from my way past post

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My God! Madhubala was so innocently beautiful!! unbelievable!



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