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In 2008, I said:
I definitely had Shaan and Maqsad on one VHS since early days of VHS. But, I couldn't find that VHS today. It used to be very popular among friends for borrowing and I haven't been keeping track since DVDs came about. I sure will find it sometime. Also, I can check the VHS rental store that still has copies from early VHS days.

Found my Shaan VHS lying on my brother's shelf. Brought it home.

My Shaan VHS (copied @ SLP speed) and is 204 min.

DEI cover states it as 195 min but is only 177.5 min.
At wikipedia site, it's listed as 181 min and shows EROS B4U cover.

While comparing run time, wanted to check if the VHS is proper Film to VHS, meaning No 4% Speed Up but did not notice any repeat frame pattern. It's field averaged but not speed shifted, as I determined comparing it with a segment on NTSC Progressive DEI DVD.

(One segmented I noticed a cut is the "JANOO" song. It's 5 min 10 sec on DEI DVD for the same "point to point" on VHS.)

It's a shame that while it's producer is still active in Bollywood, it's home DVDs are heavily cut.

If enough interest, I could try to figure out out the differences (it's a very time consuming process). Most likely, the missing scenes are the same that Sunny Audit has already mentioned (18 segments) in the opening post.


the segments that I know that are missing from the DVD...

1. Amithabh & Shashi Entry when they sitting outside the hotel they are discussingthe matter longer in the vhs.
2. The Song Naam Abdul Hai Mera Is complete and does not end with the birds flying away and directly after that the song ends Amithabh & Shashi are shown waiting for Abdul.
3. Just before the song Dariya Mein Jahaaz there is talking about the babs are going to walk on water (Amithabbh, Shashi & Co in disguise)
4. After Sunil Dutt is killed, Amithabh & Shashi are sitting talking to one of the dhaba guys asking how come Abdul is late as he never is normally, and then he shows up and gives them information about the guys discussing Sunil Dutts Death
5. The next segment I can remember is when Shakaal has order his henchment to kill Shiv Kumar's family, the next scene is Rakhee is collecting her daughter from the school and Shtrughan Sinha spots them and offers them a lift and buy the girl ice cream, as you see the car pull away you see Shakaals men follow them in the car (this leads onto the shoot out over the bridge), cuts to
6. Amithabh is waiting for Parveen Babi and Shashi Kapoor for Bindiya Giswami, however they are bother scene chatting to other girls, this is much longer in the cut I have scene.
7. The song Janoo Meri Jaan is much longer when the guys grab a bike, you see them taking it from the side somewhere.
8. Final think i can remeber is the ned fight, Jhonny Walker is show fighting longer, and when they try to escape they building/island collapsing is longer with finally the end credits.

These are the things i distinctly remember.
I also remember watching an Apollo video release with the above mentioned that was in widescreen when i was younger.

Hope this helps


My Shaan VHS (copied @ SLP speed) and is 204 min.
It's in 4:3 full frame and picture is vertically stretched. When viewed without stretch, it's 16:9.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:49 am 
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they had it on hotstar with proper AR, not sure if it was the longer edit...


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:01 pm 
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The following are shots from scenes that were not in the Directors cut (shorter edit) or shots from longer scenes in the Theatrical cut (longer edit) It is in chronological order and in comparison with Amazon Prime's version. Courtesy : Rana the great


For Jaanu Meri Jaan song there is no nicking the bike as mentioned by Shahran Sunnyy Audit back in 2003. Shashi kapoor rides an elephant for a deleted verse, Amitabh climbs the bus updside down and falls later. They show them ring the bicycle bell.

OPENING TITLES WITH FREEZE FRAME OF ACTORS:

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EXTENDED CON PLANNING:

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AFTER CON SCENE:

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FULL SONG OF "NAAM ABDUL HAI MERA" WITH MOUTH ORGAN ENDING:

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EXTRA DIALOGUE END OF THIS SCENE:

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TALKING INTRO OF "DARIYA MEIN JAHAAZ" SONG :

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DELETED INTRO DIALOGUE IN JAIL SCENE:

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SHAKAAL'S TRAITOR SHOWN EATEN BY SHARK:

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EXTRA MONOLOGUE AFTER SHARK EATS TRAITOR:

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SHIV KUMAR EXTRA TOUR OF SHAAKAL'S CAVE IN ELEVATOR:

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DELETED CIRCUS SCENE:

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EXTRA DIALOGUE BETWEEN RAAKESH & SHAAKAL:

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COLOUR DIFFERENCE OF SHIRT - WHICH IS CORRECT? GREEN IS FROM AMAZON PRIME:


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EXTENDED DIALOGUE PORTIONS AFTER RAAKESH FAILS TO KILL SHIV KUMAR:

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NO BRAKES SCENE EXTENDED:

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WAITING FOR ABDUL TO COME:

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EXTENDED CAR CHASE - RAVIS TIME TO SHINE:

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GUDDI'S SCHOOL PICK UP:

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ZOO GARDEN VISIT:

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RAVI RENU FALLOUT BEFORE "JAANU MERI JAAN" SONG :

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DELETED PORTIONS FROM "JAANU MERI JAAN" SONG:

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VIJAY FIGHT SCENE ENDS LOOKING AT FAN:

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MORE ICE CREAM FOR GUDDI:

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JAGMOHAN EXTRA SCENE TO GET TO SHAKAALS ISLAND:

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LONGER FIGHT SCENE IN CAVE:

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INTRO ESCAPE AFTER SHAKAAL PULLS DESTRUCTION LEVER:

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VIJAY MISSES THE JUMP:

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CINEMA STYLE ROLLING CREDITS:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:49 pm 
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This is really valuable shots, thanks folks!


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:39 pm 
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I bought the Apollo VHS off ebay & it still had so many missing scenes non of theses scenes were in there I paid £35.00 :(


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:41 pm 
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Apollo video used the longer Theatrical cut but made their own edit so it can fit a 3 hour tape. I think it released in 1986/87

It still has the original opening credits and most scenes above except the Amitabh-Shashi intro scene, Shatru circus scenes and Janu meri jaan full song.

There was a Savera video before Apollo that went for about £70 on ebay!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:55 pm 
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Wow! How fast did brownboy05 find the discrepancies. Amazing. I recall when I took on comparing Mera Naam Joker discrepancies, it took me a few months and you did the same in just 8-9 days.

I did transfer the VHS to DVD. With passing of time, my regular VHS player did not work properly and I had to use a back-up one and I'm not happy with the PQ. My better VHS player never gave a PQ this bad for this VHS. Unfortunately, I had copied this VHS in SLP speed but still a much better PQ is possible. Considering, how much interest is there in this rare footage and how much it costed even without all this footage, I will try to get a better transfer. I'll get my better VHS player repaired.

Hopefully, when this rare footage is seen by others, someone will dig up a better print (may be original film print) and make it available, like TEEN DEVIAN. If that does not become available, I will transfer this VHS again, after the repairs.
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The following are shots from scenes that were not in the Directors cut (shorter edit) or shots from longer scenes in the Theatrical cut (longer edit) It is in chronological order and in comparison with Amazon Prime's version. Courtesy : Rana the great



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EXTENDED CON PLANNING:

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AFTER CON SCENE:

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