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DragunR2
 Post subject: Bombay Clip on TCM
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:58 am 
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I caught the tail end of a promo TCM aired today for the upcoming Bollywood series and they showed a clip of Bombay, and it was around 1.85:1. I hope the actual airing of the film is OAR.
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Moviezzz
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DragunR2 wrote:
I caught the tail end of a promo TCM aired today for the upcoming Bollywood series and they showed a clip of Bombay, and it was around 1.85:1. I hope the actual airing of the film is OAR.

It will be OAR. TCM quite often shows films that way. Since most of the titles they are showing are only available on video that way, those are the transfers they will likely be showing.
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Zoran009
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When is Bombay coming? thnx
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This Thursday, June 5th, DDLJ @ 8 pm EST, Bombay @ 11:30 pm EST and Amar Akbar Anthony @ 2 am EST
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Every thing, same day..LOL..I have to programme by TIVO then!!to record..
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Last week they ran the documentry on Anu Malik and Javed akthar (?) composing songs for 'VIRAASAT'. The clips of the movie with Pooja and Tabu was of crappy quality (1.85, bad vhs style). :rolleyes:
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DragunR2
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By "composing," you mean listening to other people's recordings on a CD player and writing stuff down, correct? :p
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DragunR2 wrote:
By "composing," you mean listening to other people's recordings on a CD player and writing stuff down, correct? :p

:D :D copy Karney k liye Bahoot Talent Hai :D :D
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spike86
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Not when the cameras are around.... :laugh: .. :D
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DragunR2
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DDLJ just started a while ago. It started out 2.35:1, then after the credits the picture quickly zoomed into ~1.85:1. To top it off, the transfer isn't very good. Even though I'm watching on analog cable, I can tell it is substandard. The opening credits are barely legible and overall the picture is very soft. Even through analog cable I can see some DVNR artifacts. Unfortunately I get TCM in mono so I can't judge the sound. Leave it to YRF to showcase its own film to a broad Western audience using a cropped, poor quality transfer.

:baaa: :stupid:

(BTW, this is my first time seeing this film. It doesn't look too good. I don't know if I'll last through intermission! :) ??? )
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JamesBond007
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Since you did not post again am I to assume that you did watch the whole thing? For the First time only? From what you described it seems like torture :D
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Was hoping to get a copy of DDLJ (my 8th one) but seems like the YRF version is better, so I'll stick with that. I do plan on watching it for the umpteenth time this weekend though. I already have AAA on the DEI dvd, so I doubt TCM topped that.
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rana
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If someone who recorded some segments of these films can check the nature of the broadcasts of these films.

It's easy to check. Just step forward (video recording) and see if all frames are distinct or if there is any repeat pattern. Direct Film to NTSC masters exist somewhere for most of these films (DEI DVDs, YRF's DDLJ DVD etc). If used, every fifth step should be a repeated frame.

I suspect that masters for TV broadcasts are made in India for PAL broadcasts. For NTSC broadcasts, they just find it convenient and cost saving to use the existing PAL master and convert it to NTSC. This most likely results in field averaged NTSC master which is not as good as the Direct Film to NTSC transfer.

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spike86
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Wow! It was disappointing. DDLJ was cropped, with one of the worst picture quality of any movie ever shown on TCM. And TCM is channel that plays movies from the 30's, 40's and 50's with pristine picture quality. I also realized that how horrible Indian movies sound, canned and lifeless from the dubbing. Bombay was also dubbed, cropped and it was in Hindi!!!. Not that I care..I do understand Hindi. But it was better to be shown in its OSL. Well, I didn't even bother with Amar,Akbar,Anthony. I think its not TCM's fault because I don't think they would want to make their channel look bad by showing crappy transfers. :fight: :angry:
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DragunR2
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JamesBond007 wrote:
Since you did not post again am I to assume that you did watch the whole thing? For the First time only? From what you described it seems like torture :D

Actually I did watch the whole thing. I can see why it was a hit, but I didn't like it all that much. Filmmakers should stop trying to make SRK cry, because he's terrible at it. Spike, you are right, the dubbing on DDLJ was horrible. So much so that sometimes there would be words but nobody would be moving their mouths.

Bombay was cropped and dubbed, but I watched about 5 minutes and the quality wasn't horrendous, but neither was it great.

AAA was even worse quality. I haven't seen it before, but I think some footage might have been cut, since all of a sudden the film cuts to Amitabh in the church, with no scene of Pran going to that Gandhi statue and finding the kids missing. Making the impossible possible :)

Whoever was in charge of the whole project screwed up. They didn't bother to ask for OAR versions (and original language for Bombay) and the producers supplied them with shitty masters. They should have known that Indian producers might stick them with non-OAR!

Where did the masters come from? The subtitle font on all 3 films was the same.
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