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Shahran Sunny Audit
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 1:13 am 
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Best Indian DVD that was released in the UK last year. The nominees was picked by myself and people was asked to vote which they thought deserved the accolade. As you can see the Hollywood companies held the top four leads...

31% Lagaan (Columbia Tristar)
12% Asoka (Metrodome)
10% Mission Kashmir (Columbia Tristar)
10% Salaam Bombay (VCI)
9% Mirt - My Friend (Cinebella)
6% Saamurai (Ayngaran)
6% Mani Ratnam`s Kanathil Muthamittal (Ayngaran)
4% Umero Jaan (TIPTOP/BEI)
4% Gemini (Ayngaran)
3% Meri Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai (Yash Raj Films)
3% Mujse Dosti Karoge (Yash Raj FIlms)
2% Laila Majnu (TIPTOP/BEI)
2% Thamizh (Ayngaran)
1% Company (EROS)
1% Ezhumalai (Ayngaran)
0% Tumko Naa Bhool Payenge (BEI/DEI/Tip-Top)

That is the result so far, but your votes can still be cast at
DVD.REVIEWER.CO.UK AWARDS so do vote as it can make the difference. What Indian DVD did you like best?
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Shahran Sunny Audit
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I would have loved to include The Warrior and Monsoon Wedding but these films was primarily financed outside India and doesn't classify as an Indian film under the terms and conditions of the category.

I did get hate mails as to why I didn't include K3G: Special Edition, Dil Chatha Hai and even Devdas but to be honest these films sucked in terms of DVD quality so I didn't put them in my list.
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rana
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The votes seem to be for content and not for quality. At least they are getting votes that way. In that case why call it Best DVD. It may very well be Best Movie Poll.

Rana
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Aryan
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Maybe you shouldn't have picked the nominees either...let the audience decide completely...just a suggestion. Anyway, if a Columbia Tristar DVD can be counted as an Indian DVD, maybe so can films like Monsoon Wedding and The Warrior, which have primary creative input from Indians. After all, these films can be entered for awards as Indian entries. In fact, for The Warrior, that's the ONLY way that it could be entered for the Oscars. So it'll be sad if we don't want to claim it as an Indian film either:)
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mhafner
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rana wrote:
The votes seem to be for content and not for quality. At least they are getting votes that way. In that case why call it Best DVD. It may very well be Best Movie Poll.

Rana

If MDK gets more votes than Tumko... it's obviously not
about DVD quality but film popularity for some people.
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congress
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It would be great if Agni Varsha, Fiza & Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam were included?
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Zoran009
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I agree!! MDK/MYKSH, were poor dvds by YRF, while K3G was not chosen!

Laila Majnu, is one of lower in the chain Classic transfer by DEI, Umrao..is pretty darn good!

These picks/nominations dont seem to be OBJECTIVE! ???
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spike86
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MDK-How can you call this a dvd?. Yesterday I rented it to test my new Tosh 42" rptv. YUCK! This dvd don't do justice to the beautiful cinematography of MDK. Soft, blury and absolutely crappastic! :angry:
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DragunR2
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congress wrote:
It would be great if Agni Varsha, Fiza & Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam were included?

I wasn't too impressed with Agni Varsha. The picture was soft and had kind of a blurry look when the camera or objects moved.

<gasp> What's an Eros disc doing on that list, Sunny? :nervous: :oh: :hmm:
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sknath
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Sunny how come you could omit a progressively DVD like K3G and put in an interlaced DVD like (the present generation) Cinebella DVD's... No wonder you got some hate mails. The dvds should have been either DEI / BEI or CT or SD (barring a few). The rest of them are no shows in all respects.
Ayngaran will change the scenario, if and when they live upto their promise of actually giving us progressively encoded DVDs ..

Any updates on that front Sunny ?
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Shahran Sunny Audit
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Aryan wrote:
Maybe you shouldn't have picked the nominees either...let the audience decide completely...just a suggestion. Anyway, if a Columbia Tristar DVD can be counted as an Indian DVD, maybe so can films like Monsoon Wedding and The Warrior, which have primary creative input from Indians. After all, these films can be entered for awards as Indian entries. In fact, for The Warrior, that's the ONLY way that it could be entered for the Oscars. So it'll be sad if we don't want to claim it as an Indian film either:)


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Indian DVD in my (and website) definition means Indian films produced primarily with Indian finance.

A film's creative input cannot really determine the film country of origin. According to the film course I am doing at university where the origin of finance is where the origin of the film as the profits go back to that country. Guess the phat cats rule the day...lucky gits :)

I would love films like The Warrior to be called an Indian Production but sadly it is a British financed film while many Indian Producers are too busy producing crap like Baaz, Kushi, and Kuch To Hai!

Also regarding the list, the list was the idea of DVD.reviewer.co.uk for its reviewers to pick the DVDs. I did argue for audiences to choose but alas I failed.

I actually felt K3G progressive DVD was worse then any Interlaced DVDs done by Ayngaran as the source and telecine used was poor in K3G. Compare Kanathil Muthamital with K3G and you can see the same difference like night and day. Progressive doesn't mean quality. Good source and telecine determines that in my point of view.

Ayngaran are said to be doing DVD tests with progressive and are experimenting with DTS-ES. In the future they plan to move from Dolby Digital to using only DTS format as many Tamil films release in solely DTS and film-makers are encoruaging the public to buy DTS equipments and DVDs. Ayngaran's recent DTS DVD success of Bala & April Manathil have helped Ayngaran to think in this direction.

Thier DTS soundtracks rocks and I can't wait for two discs set of Dhool, Baba & Anbe Sivam :)
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DragunR2
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Shahran Sunny Audit wrote:
Ayngaran are said to be doing DVD tests with progressive and are experimenting with DTS-ES. In the future they plan to move from Dolby Digital to using only DTS format as many Tamil films release in solely DTS and film-makers are encoruaging the public to buy DTS equipments and DVDs. Ayngaran's recent DTS DVD success of Bala & April Manathil have helped Ayngaran to think in this direction.

I hope they don't move to DTS only, or I wouldn't be able to hear their DVDs. I currently have a 2 channel stereo connected to my TV and upgrading to 5.1 isn't a priority. Besides, the DVD-Video spec requires that all DVDs have at least a DD or PCM track. I don't know if anything is stopping Ayngaran from violating the spec, though.
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Aryan
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I've never heard of anyone making DTS-only discs. That wouldn't be very clever. All products should have reasonable backward compatibility. I didn't realise that a lot of Tamil films are DTS only - as major Hindi films usually come in both Dolby Digital and DTS - and occasionally Dolby EX.
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spike86
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I think there is contract between Tamil movie producers and Real Image resulting in majority of Tamil movies being DTS only.

The DTS only DVD should contain a Dolby 2.0 track. Back in the day when Hollywood studios used to release DTS only DVDs, it always contains a 2.0 track and the dvds always defaults to this track.
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Aryan
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Actually, I think a DVD 'must' contain a Dolby 2.0 track. Its part of a standard I think.
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