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DVD Collector
 Post subject: Word your opinions
PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 2:17 am 
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I'll lead this off and you guys follow with your opinions, my opinions are below;

- Dil Chahta Hai is a better film than Lagaan
- K3G isn't all that bad as people make it out to be
- Kiran Kumar is the worst actor in the history of Hindi cinema
- Maachis is one of the three best films Gulzar has ever made
- Kuch Kuch Hota Hai has to be Shah Rukh Khan's absolute worst performance
- Mahesh Manjrekar is the most under-appreciated director today
- Ramesh Sippy's Shakti isn't all that great of a film people make it to be
- Amitabh Bachchan's performance in Aks is one of the best performances of Hindi Cinema in the last ten years
- Sanjeev Kumar is a better actor than Dilip Kumar
- Nana Patekar can deliver dilogues better than Amitabh Bachchan
- Aamir Khan is the most productive actor/producer working in Bollywood today
- Mani Ratnam's Dil Se is actually a very good movie, perhaps even great.
- Vidhu Vinod Chopra is the best director hindi cinema has today
- Ismail Durbar's Devdas is the best soundtrack to comeout of bollywood in the last 6 years.

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DVD Collector wrote:
I'll lead this off and you guys follow with your opinions, my opinions are below;

- Kiran Kumar is the worst actor in the history of Hindi cinema
- Maachis is one of the three best films Gulzar has ever made
- Ramesh Sippy's Shakti isn't all that great of a film people make it to be
- Amitabh Bachchan's performance in Aks is one of the best performances of Hindi Cinema in the last ten years

These statement I more or less agree with.
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Sanjay
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 11:09 am 
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DVD Collector wrote:
I'll lead this off and you guys follow with your opinions, my opinions are below;

- Kuch Kuch Hota Hai has to be Shah Rukh Khan's absolute worst performance
- Mahesh Manjrekar is the most under-appreciated director today
- Nana Patekar can deliver dilogues better than Amitabh Bachchan
- Ismail Durbar's Devdas is the best soundtrack to comeout of bollywood in the last 6 years.

These are statement I absolutely do not agree with.
I have seen far worse from Shahrukh not that I am suggesting he was really bad in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
Mahesh Manjarekar is one of the most over rated directors there is.
Nana Patekar, hmmm.. enough said.
The music of Devdas was absolutely the biggest drawback of the film. Keeping in mind the importance of good music in this film, I might even say the music was actually very poor.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2003 7:27 pm 
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sanjay, in your opinion, was the devdas music inappropriate for the movie, or just plain bad?
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masiha
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I agree with

- K3G isn't all that bad as people make it out to be
- Kiran Kumar is the worst actor in the history of Hindi cinema
- Maachis is one of the three best films Gulzar has ever made
- Aamir Khan is the most productive actor/producer working in Bollywood today
- Ismail Durbar's Devdas is the best soundtrack to comeout of bollywood in the last 6 years.
- Ramesh Sippy's Shakti isn't all that great of a film people make it to be


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Sanjay
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theon wrote:
sanjay, in your opinion, was the devdas music inappropriate for the movie, or just plain bad?

Not really inappropriate, but definately not upto par with potential of the story. Specially keeping in mind that Devdas is one of the eternal literary classics of India and also of Indian cinema. I personally can't remember a tune from the film, whereas if done right, each song from the film should have been a classic. Ismail Durbar has given better music in far lesser films, 'Tera Jadoo Chal Gaya' being a case in point and ofcourse the music of 'Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam' is on a totally different level all together.
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I think you guys misunderstood the whole point of my message. I wanted poeple to continue with there opinions on Bollywood issues in general (ie. Salman Khan is actually a good actor). Personal opinions you want to voice that might be different from a public stands-point. I would have thought most would get the idea by my very first point Dil Chahta Hai is a better film than Lagaan.

The purpose of this message isn't so that once someone post there views, another should reply by disagreeing.

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shuman
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Dil Chahta Hai is a better film than Lagaan
> These two movies are in two different field, comparison would not be fare.
K3G isn't all that bad as people make it out to be
> Dont know what other say, but this movie is too made up!
Kiran Kumar is the worst actor in the history of Hindi cinema
> Few of his roles were nicely done! Would not say the worst..
Maachis is one of the three best films Gulzar has ever made
> Oh Yes!
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai has to be Shah Rukh Khan's absolute worst performance
> Not the worst! Ok may be.
Mahesh Manjrekar is the most under-appreciated director today
> I would agree, as i learnt about him from Vaastav, Pitaah
Amitabh Bachchan's performance in Aks is one of the best performances of Hindi Cinema in the last ten years
> Agree!
Sanjeev Kumar is a better actor than Dilip Kumar
> Quite a comparison, I would love to hope so.. Seen many quality movies of SK, but haven't seen much movie of DK to make any comment.. Lets see.
Nana Patekar can deliver dilogues better than Amitabh Bachchan
> Very hard call! Both AB & NP have had their days.
Aamir Khan is the most productive actor/producer working in Bollywood today
> Delligent is the term i would use. Productive may not be suitable.
Mani Ratnam's Dil Se is actually a very good movie, perhaps even great.
> Very good movie indeed!
Vidhu Vinod Chopra is the best director hindi cinema has today
> RGV, Mani Ratnam, SLB, Mahesh Bhatt, VVC .. all of them has a best side.
Ismail Durbar's Devdas is the best soundtrack to comeout of bollywood in the last 6 years.
> Guess so.

Here are few of my opinions about bollywood today:

*Today's movies lacks creativity (all aspects.)
*In comparison yesteryear's movies, current ones coming with double numbers of songs.
*Alok Nath is the worst character to play elderly person.
*Tom Alter (side actor), Annu Kapoor (commedian) both are underrated today.
*Gulzar is one of the best lyricist we have today.
*Jhoot Bole Kawa Kaate isn't all that flop, i announce it hit in comparison to K3G.
*In few of the Recent AB Movies, i failed to find the AB's full concentration on acting. Making the scene look made up. May be it's just me!
*Lastly, i believe today's directors scr*wing up a movie once they try to sell it (by adding redundant use of songs, action) and not by putting sole dedication to direction and editing.

hope i haven't offended anyone!
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shuman wrote:
Here are few of my opinions about bollywood today:

*Today's movies lacks creativity (all aspects.)
*In comparison yesteryear's movies, current ones coming with double numbers of songs.
*Alok Nath is the worst character to play elderly person.
*Tom Alter (side actor), Annu Kapoor (commedian) both are underrated today.
*Gulzar is one of the best lyricist we have today.
*Jhoot Bole Kawa Kaate isn't all that flop, i announce it hit in comparison to K3G.
*In few of the Recent AB Movies, i failed to find the AB's full concentration on acting. Making the scene look made up. May be it's just me!
*Lastly, i believe today's directors scr*wing up a movie once they try to sell it (by adding redundant use of songs, action) and not by putting sole dedication to direction and editing.

hope i haven't offended anyone!

There you go! your second-half of the post gets the idea :thumbs:

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-Shashi Kapoor is the most talented of the Kapoors, closely followed by Rishi Kapoor
-Raj Kapoor is not all that great as made out to be, Gurudutt is far, far greater!
-Gulzar is one of the most sensitive storyteller of all times.
-'Bas Itna Sa Khwab Hai' had some decent writing and deserved to fare better, same with 'Shararat'
-We need more Bollywood directors to adapt contemperory Indian writing into movies, the way Dev Benegal did with 'English August' and of the current lot of new age directors he leads the way. He did a superb job and hope he can find the creative energy to repeat it again.



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- Dil Chahta Hai is a better film than Lagaan NO
- K3G isn't all that bad as people make it out to be YES
- Kiran Kumar is the worst actor in the history of Hindi cinema YES
- Maachis is one of the three best films Gulzar has ever made YES
- Kuch Kuch Hota Hai has to be Shah Rukh Khan's absolute worst performance NO
- Mahesh Manjrekar is the most under-appreciated director today NO, HE'S OVER HYPED
- Ramesh Sippy's Shakti isn't all that great of a film people make it to be SORT OF
- Amitabh Bachchan's performance in Aks is one of the best performances of Hindi Cinema in the last ten years HAHA, THIS ONE'S FUNNY
- Sanjeev Kumar is a better actor than Dilip Kumar SORT OF
- Nana Patekar can deliver dilogues better than Amitabh Bachchan NOT INTERESTED
- Aamir Khan is the most productive actor/producer working in Bollywood today YES
- Mani Ratnam's Dil Se is actually a very good movie, perhaps even great. MOST DEFINITELY
- Vidhu Vinod Chopra is the best director hindi cinema has today YES
- Ismail Durbar's Devdas is the best soundtrack to comeout of bollywood in the last 6 years. NO, THERE WERE OTHER MUCH BETTER ALBUMS BY AR RAHMAN LAGAAN, ZUBEIDAA, DIL SE AND EARTH 1947



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shuman
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Aarkayne wrote:
-Shashi Kapoor is the most talented of the Kapoors, closely followed by Rishi Kapoor

i got your point collector bhai..

but let me question Aarkayne this..
i really failed to see talents of Sashi (as you mentioned), i would like to know some of his decent/best movies..
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Dil Chahta Hai is a better film than Lagaan
No I think Lagaan is a much better film.
- K3G isn't all that bad as people make it out to be
Yes
- Kiran Kumar is the worst actor in the history of Hindi cinema
Kind of however I would like to add one more name and that is Puru Raj Kumar
- Maachis is one of the three best films Gulzar has ever made
Definitely!!
- Kuch Kuch Hota Hai has to be Shah Rukh Khan's absolute worst performance
NO... his worst has been seen in movies like chaahat etc
- Mahesh Manjrekar is the most under-appreciated director today
Not really.... he is overhyped
- Ramesh Sippy's Shakti isn't all that great of a film people make it to be
Agree!!
- Amitabh Bachchan's performance in Aks is one of the best performances of Hindi Cinema in the last ten years
Hmmm not sure...
- Sanjeev Kumar is a better actor than Dilip Kumar
Yeah I agree!
- Nana Patekar can deliver dilogues better than Amitabh Bachchan
I dont think so...
- Aamir Khan is the most productive actor/producer working in Bollywood today
Yes..
- Mani Ratnam's Dil Se is actually a very good movie, perhaps even great.
Oh it is an excellent film!
- Vidhu Vinod Chopra is the best director hindi cinema has today
Unsure on that... probably yes..
- Ismail Durbar's Devdas is the best soundtrack to comeout of bollywood in the last 6 years.
Not really... the songs dont stay in your mind for very long for this soundtrack to be called great... I think Lagaan was a far better soundtrack

Adding more:
-Shashi Kapoor and Rajeev Kapoor are the least talented of the Kapoors.
-Kareena Kapoor is the most overhyped actress we have today.
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-Bollywod is nothing but a hype machine.
-If you have Amitabh in your cast, and can't churn out a great movie, there's something wrong with you(ie, all the directors who worked with hiim in the past few years).
-It's all about who you know, and who's in your movie, not about what you know, and how good the story is.
-Farhan Akhtar is the only talent among the young directors today.
-Devdas was an extreme disppointment.
-Out with the dubbing.. i couldn't even watch KHDBB because of the AWFUL lyp sync. Bring on the sync sound.
-Mani Ratnam is the only innovator in the crowd right now.
-Item songs are the downfall of the industry when it comes to filmmaking(also a sign taht money is all that matters).
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shuman wrote:
Aarkayne wrote:
-Shashi Kapoor is the most talented of the Kapoors, closely followed by Rishi Kapoor

i got your point collector bhai..

but let me question Aarkayne this..
i really failed to see talents of Sashi (as you mentioned), i would like to know some of his decent/best movies..

JUNOON was Shashi Kapoor's best performance by far. He was pretty decent in NEW DELHI TIMES as well(incidentally he got the National Award for it though he kept insisting that instead of him it was Jennifer Kendall his wife that should have gotten the award for her role in 36 CHOWRINGHEE LANE. She might have passed on the same year I think).

He was pretty alright in both KABHI KABHIE and DEEWAR. He always seemed to bring a certain dignity to whatever he did on screen. Even in inane flicks like PYAAR KIYE JA he was passable. Another couple of notable performances of his were in VIJETA as well as BASERAA.

My 2 cents worth.



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