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Zoran009
PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:26 pm 
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Original DVDs((((BUY ORIGINAL as THEY ARE PROG??)))

Digitally mastered picture
Digitally mastered audio
Subtitles in many languages
Many DVDs are now done in progressive scan to give consumers the highest quality picture one can get on a HDTV
Money goes to the company which bought the DVD rights legally

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http://indianwatchdog.netfirms.com/consumers/bo.html
??? :bangbang: :baaa: :stupid: :angry: :bangbang:



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Sanjay
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arsh wrote:
Original DVDs((((BUY ORIGINAL as THEY ARE PROG??)))

Digitally mastered picture
Digitally mastered audio
Subtitles in many languages
Many DVDs are now done in progressive scan to give consumers the highest quality picture one can get on a HDTV
Money goes to the company which bought the DVD rights legally

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http://indianwatchdog.netfirms.com/consumers/bo.html
??? :bangbang: :baaa: :stupid: :angry: :bangbang:

Sorry I don't agree with this, atleast not when it comes to DVDs from companies like Video Sound and Tips. What is the point of a progressive transfer or for that matter subtitles etc. if the disc is going to stop working after a few days and/or viewings. For the record every single Video Sound DVD from the last 2 yrs or so, except for maybe a couple have stopped working. Keeping in mind that I have bought every single new movie released, that is a lot of bad discs. The latest and last Video Sound DVD I bought 'Jeena Sirf Merre Liye', also stopped working today.
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vjmajic2002
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i think they are mainly talking about yashraj dvds since yashrajfilms is one of the companies behind indianwatchdog..(and there the only ones who still sometimes provide progressive dvds)
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rana
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arsh wrote:
Original DVDs((((BUY ORIGINAL as THEY ARE PROG??)))

Digitally mastered picture

Many DVDs are now done in progressive scan to give consumers the highest quality picture one can get on a HDTV

Money goes to the company which bought the DVD rights legally

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http://indianwatchdog.netfirms.com/consumers/bo.html
??? :bangbang: :baaa: :stupid: :angry: :bangbang:

It feels good that after so many months of "Progressive" rant, Indian DVD makers have listened to us and are giving due importance to Progressive encoding.

I am sure other important things like, Anamorphic picture (for wide screen), Colors, Sharpness, Source etc. will not be overlooked.

I am all for all money going to the rightful right holders as long as the product is of acceptable quality. I will not want to pay any money (not even a single penny) for a pirate unless it is considerably better than the legal version.

Rana
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Zoran009
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so rana ji, ZOR KIS PAR HUA!! just to get OCCASIONAL/ACCIDENTAL dvds in prog, you should buy all ORIGINAL SHIT!?

I am all for ORIG rana ji!! But they are not GOOD VALUE for even my $3 bucks!! Believe me!!
Even they are not GOOD INTERLACED?? and SELF DESTRUCTIVE discs..just to keep on buying repeatedly, the same disc...""Mochi, agar aapka joota mazboot repair karega? tou khaeyga, kahan se?"""
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ali
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rana wrote:
It feels good that after so many months of "Progressive" rant, Indian DVD makers have listened to us and are giving due importance to Progressive encoding.

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Ali :oops:
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Zoran009
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I love dat ali..kool!!

((((Digitally mastered picture
Digitally mastered audio
Subtitles in many languages
Many DVDs are now done in progressive scan to give consumers the highest quality picture one can get on a HDTV ))))

Is a new GIMMICK, SLOGAN by those OLD BIG CHORS!!

What YRF did to DDLJ in 6 yrs! what EROS did to DEVDAS in 6 months? What YRF had been padosing us with in name of CLASSIC shits like SSS/RTGM /BOBBY etc!and Lately CRAPPY dvds like MYKSH and MDK!!

Now they are RECYCLING their SONGS, just like EROS in different versions, even in more DETERIORATED versions...

Chale haen, BAAT KARNE, PROG ki and ORIG DIGITTALY REMASTERED/MASTERED SOURCE, and DIGITALLY REMASTERED ENHANCED CRAPPY PSEUDO 5.1 Sound!!!

BADA MOUN CHOTI BAAT!! They are just using WORD prog, even not knowing what all this means?? :baaa: :bangbang: :stupid: :angry: :keh:
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rana
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arsh wrote:
They are just using WORD prog, even not knowing what all this means?? :baaa: :bangbang: :stupid: :angry: :keh:

At least, we succeeded in our (ganti, you, and me) mission to introduce the word "Progressive" (Farodja thread)??

At least, some one in the DVD making business has noticed the word, "Progressive". Let's hope, it's implemented in their DVDs soon.

Rana
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Zoran009
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Haan rana ji!! Baat LAFZON tak na rehjaey??? tou acha hai, at least they did learn the WORD" PROGRESSIVE" What do they mean by it?? We have to see?? Hopefully some thing GOOD, u are kinda OPTIMISTIC guy!! I admire that!! but!! I am SKEPTICAL!!

Lets hope ABHINETRI is not just an ODD FLUKE in the JUNGLE!! U can never TRUST? TELL??? ??? :baaa:
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rana
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arsh wrote:
Haan rana ji!! Baat LAFZON tak na rehjaey??? tou acha hai, at least they did learn the WORD" PROGRESSIVE" What do they mean by it?? We have to see?? Hopefully some thing GOOD, u are kinda OPTIMISTIC guy!! I admire that!! but!! I am SKEPTICAL!!

It's about time. Hollywood has started Hi-Def distribution.

This weekend I saw HDVHS Terminator-2 at real 1920 x 1080 resolution display. I am not sure whether it was being displayed at 1080 i or 1080P, but the PQ was stunning. HDVHS distributed movies are a steal at $ 35 Cdn as compared to $ 26 Cdn for DVD.

Rana

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As always, Indians are a few years behind the west. But, Indians did beat them in Limited View DVDs.
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DragunR2
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rana wrote:
This weekend I saw HDVHS Terminator-2 at real 1920 x 1080 resolution display. I am not sure whether it was being displayed at 1080 i or 1080P, but the PQ was stunning. HDVHS distributed movies are a steal at $ 35 Cdn as compared to $ 26 Cdn for DVD.

I believe all the HD-VHS tapes are 1080i.

The vast majority of Indian DVDs are regressive, not progressive. We started with a bunch of great, although cropped, discs from Eros-DEI and later DEI on their own, and now Eros, VS, Spark, and the rest produce mediocre DVDs that could be confused with pirates.



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Zoran009
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MAN!! Dragun """are regressive, not progressive"" ..It is ur day!!! No one could have said better!! It gave me a heartful GIGGLE!! thnx
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Sanjay
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rana wrote:
But, Indians did beat them in Limited View DVDs.

That credit must go to Video Sound & Tips, in that order.
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The vast majority of Indian DVDs are regressive, not progressive.

That has got to be the quote of the month, if not the year.
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mhafner
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rana wrote:
arsh wrote:
Haan rana ji!! Baat LAFZON tak na rehjaey??? tou acha hai, at least they did learn the WORD" PROGRESSIVE" What do they mean by it?? We have to see?? Hopefully some thing GOOD, u are kinda OPTIMISTIC guy!! I admire that!! but!! I am SKEPTICAL!!

It's about time. Hollywood has started Hi-Def distribution.

This weekend I saw HDVHS Terminator-2 at real 1920 x 1080 resolution display. I am not sure whether it was being displayed at 1080 i or 1080P, but the PQ was stunning. HDVHS distributed movies are a steal at $ 35 Cdn as compared to $ 26 Cdn for DVD.

Rana

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As always, Indians are a few years behind the west. But, Indians did beat them in Limited View DVDs.

Welcome to HD! :D
What display did you use?
D-Theater tapes are 1080i.
T2's quality is average for HD. It gets better than that.
This kind of quality you can see daily many times on
US TV. In Europe we are a third world country in that
regard.
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rana
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DragunR2 wrote:
rana wrote:
This weekend I saw HDVHS Terminator-2 at real 1920 x 1080 resolution display. I am not sure whether it was being displayed at 1080 i or 1080P, but the PQ was stunning. HDVHS distributed movies are a steal at $ 35 Cdn as compared to $ 26 Cdn for DVD.


I believe all the HD-VHS tapes are 1080i.

Just like our present day 480i DVDs can be displayed in 480P if made from 24 fps film, the same way 1080i material can be converted to 1080P if made from 24 fps Film. (Ali had provided that link in another thread).

1080i Video shootings where 50 or 60 individual half images are recorded in a sec, stays 1080i.

Rana



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