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prince naz
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Salman turns violent with Ash again


By: A Mid Day Correspondent
September 17,2002

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For Pune movie fans, it was a scene straight out of an action-packed movie potboiler. Salman Khan stormed onto the sets of a new film that was being launched there with Shah Rukh Khan and Aishwarya Rai, and reportedly turned so violent and abusive that the shooting had to be stopped.

Salman, known for his exhibitionistic behaviour, is also believed to have peeled his clothes off after disrupting the shoot. The rocky romance between Salman and Aishwarya has recently been reportedly in excruciating detail by the film glossies. Their on-and-off relationship became the subject of much speculation again when both of them were performing at concerts, first at a diamond merchant family wedding in Antwerp and then in London.

On her return to India, Aishwarya reported for the shooting in Pune of Dreams Productions’ new venture toplining her with Shah Rukh Khan, and being directed by Aziz Mirza. According to unitwallas, Aishwarya had given the directions to the shooting venue to Salman who wanted to meet her there.

He barged in fuming that she had given him the wrong directions and that he had been driving around in circles for hours. He turned physically violent with Aishwarya, it is alleged, and rained abuses on Shah Rukh Khan and the snow-haired senior director Aziz Mirza.

If eyewitnesses are to be believed, Aishwarya left the spot with Salman eventually. Earlier he had thrown off his clothes. The unit packed up, cancelling the four-day shoot and returned to Mumbai.

Whether Aishwarya will continue to be in the project remains a question. In fact, according to trade sources, many filmmakers have shied away from signing her in recent times because they do not want to contend with interruptions and disruptions by Salman.

Previously, he had barged into the sets of Kuch Na Kaho being directed by Rohan Sippy with Abhishek Bachchan and Aishwarya in the lead. He had also misbehaved with Aishwarya at the Filmfare Awards function earlier this year, roughing her up and kissing her on the lips right in front of the popping flash-bulbs of the paparazzi.
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here is the other article..
Ash-Salman: Déjà vu
Aishwarya Rai and Salman Khan are at it again. They once again created a scene recently amidst unit members of Dreamz's next film directed by Aziz Mirza. While shooting in Pune for the film with Shah Rukh Khan, Ash reportedly had to face Salman's wrath over some trivial matter. According to those present, Salman was verbally abusive and didn't stop at anything. To save some face the couple went behind a vanity van where Salman was heard banging the van while shouting at Ash who did nothing to stop him. But just when the unit members feared that he might hit her too, they saw the now estranged-now together couple riding off in his car as if they had come from a stroll in a park. Leaving the shooting midway left a dent on Ash's claims of being professional. Last heard, Dreamz is rethinking their decision of casting the Ex Miss World. So long, till the next episode!
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Naz let me guess this... Salman wanted to Do more than "AAGEY"-play ( translate it guys into english)..and ASH doesnt want him to do nothing except "AAGEY"-play.. which is why I can explain his frustration .. Come on afterall he is a MARD (or is he ? ) :D :p
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Simran
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Naz let me guess this... Salman wanted to Do more than "AAGEY"-play ( translate it guys into english)..and ASH doesnt want him to do nothing except "AAGEY"-play.. which is why I can explain his frustration .. Come on afterall he is a MARD (or is he ? )


Well, gee, if cracking jokes about (and completely trivializing) domestic violence is acceptable, I propose we go back to that whole "Paki" diatribe and consign this board to eternal immaturity.

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It's upto the individuals involved or Police. I am not intrested in any one's personal affairs.

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Naz let me guess this... Salman wanted to Do more than "AAGEY"-play ( translate it guys into english)..and ASH doesnt want him to do nothing except "AAGEY"-play.. which is why I can explain his frustration .. Come on afterall he is a MARD (or is he ? )


Well, gee, if cracking jokes about (and completely trivializing) domestic violence is acceptable, I propose we go back to that whole "Paki" diatribe and consign this board to eternal immaturity.

Simran

Simran, normally i dont like cracking jokes on domestic violence....but this violence (as perpetuated by Salman) is in no way domestic.... As for the other stuff that you mentioned.. it is a totally different thing which can be discussed at some other place.. I dont think I have to subscribe to your views and vice-versa..
Hope this helps...
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'I've never beaten Ash' says Salman


By: S Ramachandran
September 18,2002

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HAIR WE GO NOW: Salman Khan

Salman Khan walks into the sets of Tere Naam. He is a bit angry. He has just heard about an article about him beating up Aishwarya Rai and abusing Aziz Mirza and Shah Rukh Khan in Mid Day.

After sitting next to director Satish Kaushik, he asks for a copy, goes through it again and again reading it aloud. Then he takes off his shirt and walks around with bodyguard in tow. The producer Sunil Manchanda then talks to him and brings him for an interview.

Salman puts his shirt on and fields questions. His answers are laced with sarcasm as he also enjoys a bit of his wit as he answers questions about his work and personal life. Excerpts from an interview.

Why did you sign Tere Naam?

Because I had no work. (laughs). I liked the script. It is a very good film.

Tell us about working with director Satish Kaushik?

Pappu Pager? (Kaushik’s name in a few films). He is a very sweet guy. This is my first and last film with him (laughs).

We believe that the music by Himesh Reshammiya is very good.

Indeed. The music will kick ass. It is very melodious and has a lot of lyrical value.

What is your role in Tere Naam?

There is a boy who falls in love with a simple girl and goes out of his way for her. He loses everything in life including his friends. But he gets the girl in the end. He has been regarded like a total untouchable. But suddenly his worth is known when he goes ahead and gives his life for the girl. She thinks he is wrong, but she realises everything about him in the last 15 minutes.

Is it same in your personal life? Do you feel that you have been misinterpreted too?

Not at all. People understand me very well, especially the press. (laughs)

Don’t you feel the need to clarify?

I don’t need to go and explain anything to anyone. My family and people who know me know the truth. I don’t need to tell anyone what has been happening. But all these things said and written about me add up. I let it go as a part of life.

What would you compare Tere Naam to?

It is a film in the genre of Ek Duuje Ke Liye or even Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. But I did not agree with the ending in Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. Sanjay Bhansali told me that he wanted a depressive high. But frankly, I feel that love is above all traditions. But if you are making a traditional film, then f*** love.

Nandini (Aishwarya) should have left her husband and gone with the guy she loved (Salman). Her husband (Ajay Devgan) was like god to her for what he did. If I had made Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam, I would have let her go with the guy she loved.

What is your take on love?

I don’t think that there is a word called love. There is a word called ‘need’. A girl will not reciprocate the love, till she feels the need for the guy. Even if he says that he wants to jump off the cliff, she will ask him to go ahead and do it.

What about the love in Devdas?

That is not love. It is a film about a loser. The writer of the book himself realised that he had destroyed an entire generation.

Why didn’t you do Devdas?

I was the last person to know that I am not doing Devdas. I did two films with Sanjay Leela Bhansali. By the end of that, he had outgrown me. He needed a much better actor to play the role.

What about Aishwarya? Did she fit the role?

I have not seen Devdas. But Sanjay felt that she was going through a lot of trouble and was suited for her character. Ditto with Shah Rukh and Madhuri. I am the only one who does not have any problems. So I did not get that role.

But you do get emotional…

Emotional problems don’t have any logic. If someone is emotional, he is. The person next to him is helping control his anger.

You have not been able to control your anger.

I do get emotional. But then I hurt myself. I have banged my head against the wall, I have hurt myself all over. I cannot hurt anyone else. I have only hit Subhash Ghai. Yet, I apologised to him the next day.

There are times when you do get out of control. That person hit me with a spoon, almost broke a plate on my face, pissed on my shoes and grabbed me by the neck. I could not control myself. And see what happened. Next day, I had to go and apologise.

I have not beaten up anyone else.

What about the story in Mid Day? Is it true?

Every word of it is true. I don’t want to clarify anything.

Have you beaten up Aishwarya?

No. I have never beaten her. Anyone can beat me up. Any fighter here on the sets can thrash me. That is why people are not scared of me.

Don’t you think your anger can ruin her career?

Nothing has happened to my career. Her career will also be fine.

What about the heroine of this film Bhoomika? Is she scared of you?

After she reads what has been written about me in Mid Day today, she must be very scared of me.

You mean to say that you are being victimised by the media.

Indeed. I don’t suck up to journalists, I don’t throw parties and entertain people.

You have also been accused of stripping in public?

What is stripping? Even now, I have been walking without my shirt on. I don’t have my shirt on in some films. I cycle without my shirt on.

What went wrong with your last film Tumko Na Bhool Payenge?

I liked Tumko Na Bhool Payenge a lot. I really don’t know what was the problem.
There was the aspect of the Muslim guy being a Hindu in the film. You can either be a Muslim or a Hindu. I realised that you cannot mix up the religions.

You seem to have a strong viewpoint on religion.

I don’t see any problems between Hindus and Muslims. The reason for the differences is greed. There are some greedy politicians who want to get the Hindus and Muslims fighting against each other.

My father is a Muslim. My mother (Salma) was a Hindu — a half-Maratha and half-Rajput Dogra. They have been living together for so many years. My other mother (Helen) is Catholic…

Tell us about your brother Sohail Khan…

He is very good. He has been accepted as an actor. He has passed that test. He has been handling four departments. The film has done well.

You were to do the role that he did.

We wanted him to do that role. The role fitted him well. I was like five years too ahead to do that role.

Tell us about Marigold...

I have been offered other roles in Hollywood before. But the roles are such that you are made to look like an idiot. Indians are never offered proper roles. But the one in Marigold was quite good.

The director, Willard, loves India a lot and has been here before. That is what made me accept the film. He was keen to make a musical.

I did offer inputs as I have been in the industry for around 15 years now and know quite
a bit about it.


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if he really does beat aishwaria then the guy deserves to be shot, where are the underworld when they are needed?

these rumours can only be substantiated by Ash and if she isn't talking the truth of the matter is anyones guess........
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Well, gee, if cracking jokes about (and completely trivializing) domestic violence is acceptable, I propose we go back to that whole "Paki" diatribe and consign this board to eternal immaturity. --Simran

Simran, normally i dont like cracking jokes on domestic violence....but this violence (as perpetuated by Salman) is in no way domestic.... As for the other stuff that you mentioned.. it is a totally different thing which can be discussed at some other place.. I dont think I have to subscribe to your views and vice-versa..
Hope this helps...


...No: there are times when you don't get a right to have your own opinion. It's not okay that you would not subscribe to my views on the unacceptability of a man beating a woman. It's not okay that you would disagree and think that's an acceptable form of behavior. Screw cultural/philosophical relativism or whatever the hell it is that says I should respect your viewpoint (if this is what it is). You DON'T have the right to this opinion. Should I let someone keep human slaves, just because they think it's okay? Should I let someone molest children, because that's what they feel they should do? No. Some things are unacceptable. Like beating your girlfriend. So don't pull the old "respect my opinion" line on me.

Also, you say "this is in no way domestic" -- I think you need to look up the term "domestic violence" and see what it covers. Actually, I'll save you the time: domestic violence is a term used to describe violence when it's done by/inflicted on a family member or significant other (i.e. girlfriend, boyfriend). So this does qualify as domestic violence. Not that that makes it better or worse, though it does make it more insidious and difficult to deal with. And arguably more damaging psychologically.

Before someone asks what this conversation is doing on the board, let me say that when someone says something on this board that I so strongly disagree with (and those of you who are long time users will notice that I have never engaged in this sort of conversation before -- am usually more of a lurker than a poster anyway) then I feel like it should be addressed on the board. However, since I don't want this conversation to run indefinitely, I won't post again on this topic. Though of course I think sknath is entitled to respond to this! And sknath, I am not implying that I think you condone domestic violence -- but I think the theoretical defense you brought up doesn't stand in this instance, as I've already explained.



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By the way, what's this Mid Day article that the interviewer keeps alluding to (which Salman thinks is basis for his costar to be frightened of him)?
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I am in no way condoning domestic (or otherwise) violence and personally I feel Salman should be charged and arrested for his behaviour. But I do feel that if Aishwarya is stupid enough to put up with this then she deserves it. After all she is not some helpless, uneducated, economically or socially weak girl and does not have to put up with this behaviour if she does not really wish to. Therefore if she chooses to be beaten up by an ass like Salman then it's her life and not our business. I do have to add though that she must have some real self confidence issues if she chooses to be in such an abusive relationship.
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Let's face it Aish is quite stupid for being with him in the first place. So she desrves no sympathy, especially since she doesn't have the sense to leave him. One day you'd probably hear the headline Aishwariya Rai has been murdered by Salman, and the film industry would raise her to the level of bollywood's Princess Diana. I think she's one of those girl who can't be single for too long and Salman saw an oportunity and got in there....and is trying to stay there.

btw, he looks so gay with that long hair.
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*LOL*
It look's like I've killed this thread!
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Well it appears that finally Ash is admitting she had a relationship with Salman and now she's being harassed. since Salman can't take a rejection, I wonder if he'll use his underworld connections to get back at her.

Taken from:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms. ... d=23402266

Salman harassing me, says Aishwarya
AFSANA AHMED

TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2002 12:25:38 AM ]

MUMBAI: Former Miss World and leading actress Aishwarya Rai says Salman Khan has not been able to come to terms with their break-up and is hounding her even though they parted ways in March.

"Salman and I broke up last March, but he isn't able to come to terms with it," says Aishwarya.

The actress says Salman hounds her and causes physical injuries to himself when she refuses to take his calls.

The Aishwarya-Salman affair had generated a big storm when the story hit newspapers and tabloids.

Though her family opposed the relationship, she stood by her man, only to be let down time and again by Salman, says Ash.

"After we broke up, he would call me and talk rubbish. He also suspected me of having affairs with my co-stars. I was linked up with everyone, from Abhishekh Bachchan to Shah Rukh Khan. There were times when Salman got physical with me, luckily without leaving any marks. And I would go to work as if nothing had happened."

Ash says she took everything in her stride, sometimes even consoling him.

The break-up finally came when she heard of Salman cheating on her.

"He indirectly confessed to me one day," she says about the episode.

Ash also denies that she called Salman to the sets of Aziz Mirza's film in Naraingaon. It was other way around, she explains. Salman kept calling, but Ash refused to say where she was. But he overheard people near her mentioning the name of the place.

Witnesses say that an inebriated Salman reached there and insisted that Ash go with him. Though she refused first, she relented after he hit himself. Amid all this, Mirza ordered a pack-up. Ash was recently replaced by Rani Mukherjee in the film.

Reports that her career is being jeopardised by her personal life disturb Aishwarya. She clarifies she "opted out of Atul Agnihotri's (Salman's brother-in-law) Dil Ne Jise Apna Kahan for personal reasons."

"It's sad that I'm being projected as unprofessional and calculating. Filmmakers who have signed me know that the only healing factor in my life is my work. This is a male-dominated industry and I guess it has been difficult for many to digest a woman holding her own with dignity. Nevertheless, there's somebody up there who's with me," says Ash.

But the actress doesn't believe her career has hit a downturn. She'll soon star in Rituparno Ghosh's film based on Tagore's work. Then there are projects with Rajiv Menon, Yash Chopra, Raj Kumar Santoshi, Sanjay Leela Bhansali and Sajeev Karnik. Moreover, an English film and a Spanish film are in the pipeline.

"Let others say what they want. But every person concerned knows the truth... God is the witness," declares Aishwarya.
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