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A must see........to say ajay devgan is excellent is an understatement

http://www.indiafm.com/reviews/02/legend/index.shtml



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heavy promotion of LOBS at indiafm andd after indiafm hkskn review me dont trust them...


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23rd March 1931 Shaheed from sify
Ratings: * *
23rd March 1931 Shaheed, the other biggie Bhagat Singh tribute is a more commercial film. With the Sunny Deol, Guddu Dhanoa and Tinnu Varma triad, it becomes a flying kicks and heels action tribute to the freedom fighter.


With Bobby Deol’s look coming very close to the image of Bhagat Singh, the film has an advantage. What’s more Bobby surprises you with his effort to get into the character of the freedom. Subdued and sensitive, he plays down his Action Jackson image. If only a more purposeful and knowledgeable team aided him, his would have been the most effective of all the Bhagat Singh movies. Instead the film seems to have been made by the Deol Brothers market in the North in mind, and you have Sunny Deol as Chandrashekhar Azad hogging more footage than is due. Perhaps the film should have been titled Bhagat Aur Azad Ki Dosti. Or maybe Dosti Ho Toh Bhagat Aur Azad Jaisi! The film while retaining the key turning points in the life of Bhagat Singh as a child clearly stays away from the political machinations of the leaders within India and outside it. There’s only one reference to Mahatma Gandhi and his stepping back from the non-cooperation movement, which had affected Bhagat Singh greatly. Bhagat whose life is incomplete without Sukhdev, Rajguru and Jatin Das play incidental roles in the film. They are there only when required.

The film seems to capture more of Bhagat Singh’s (Bobby Deol) relationship with Chandrashekhar Azad (Sunny Deol), but even that is sketchy. The first half has Bhagat Singh playing second fiddle to Azad, it’s only his escape after killing Saunders that Bhagat Singh comes into full play. His bombing of the legislative assembly, his fasting in the prison as a sign of rebel against the inhuman conditions of the prisoners, his torture, his ideology, a hope that he would be freed one day, and yet knowing that death awaited him at the end of the road is captured in the second half. Bobby’s Bhagat is less flamboyant and more sensitive and emotional. The scene where the court announces a sentence of imprisonment, Bhagat hopes of being freed from the prison are dashed, but when he sees his mother (Amrita) in the court he gains his strength and fervour. Bobby in that sense has captured the vulnerability of the young Bhagat in that scene; this of course is not seen in the other films on Bhagat.

23rd March 1931 has got all the elements of an entertainer. Stars galore; Amrita Singh, Aishwarya Rai, Sunny, Shakti Kapoor and many other big names making an appearance. Catchy Punjabi laced songs, with loads of patriotic lyrics in it. And what’s more loads of action. The screenplay by Sutanu Gupta makes you gasp. The art by Nitish Roy, cinematography by Thiru Roy are very impressive. The dialogues are very massy.Amrita Singh who returns to screen after a long time makes an impact. Except for Chandrashekhar Azad’s death scene, Sunny’s presence in the film seems intrusive. Aishwarya looks pretty but that’s about it. One would have wanted to see Bobby hogging the show right from the first frame to the last. Because it is the second half of the film, which is Bobby’s entirely, that he’s done a sincere job. One can’t help feeling Rajkumar Santoshi and Bobby Deol would have made a better combo, than what they settled for. Just for Bobby’s sake, may his Bhagat Singh win!

The Legend of Bhagat Singh review from sify
The day of the reckoning is finally here with the battle of the Bhagat Singhs out in the open. The final result of the two, that is, Ajay Devgan and Bobby Deol’s, is as different as chalk and cheese. Rajkumar Santoshi’s is expectantly the classier product, but not without it’s faults.

RKS opens his film with the British soldiers trying to get rid of the bodies of the three martyrs – Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev and Rajguru, but are overtaken by a mob. The incident raises the shackles of every freedom-fighting Indian in the country who confronts Mahatma Gandhi for not doing enough to save Bhagat Singh’s life. “History will always question you about this” says one, to which Gandhi has no answer. And the life of the freedom fighter who died young unfolds in front of our eyes. Bhagat Singh was no ordinary child.

Bhagat Singh (Ajay Devgan) grows up to be an intelligent, intense and popular youth in his college. His ideology attracts like-minded youth like Sukhdev (Sushant Singh) to him. Bhagat Singh runs away from home to avoid marriage, as he believed that there was no place for an event like that in his life. He was married to his country, and wanted to free her. Out of the house, he joins Bismillah (Ganesh Yadav) and his group who plan the Kakoree Train Theft with Chandrashekhar Azad (Akhilendra Mishra). When Bismillah and his group are caught, Azad joins Bhagat Singh and his group to form the Hindustan Socialist Republic Association. When Lala Lajpat Rai gets killed in the Simon Go Back morcha, the group gets together to kill Saunders as retaliation. He along with B K Dutta bombs the Legislative Assembly to get arrested. The tactic was to get their message of freedom for India across to the country as well as the world. The British Empire considered Bhagat too dangerous, as the unknown youth overnight became a hero for his country. His popularity at one time seemed to overtake the Ahimsa believing Gandhi. Bhagat even in the prison rebelled for human rights and along with his group fasted for more than a month. His popularity within the country signed the death warrant for Bhagat and his friends, Sukhdev and Rajguru (D Santosh) who were hanged to death on 23rd March 1931.

Truly Bhagat Singh is the kind of stuff that heroes are made up of. But how does one encapsulate a life that young, that short and yet so rich in a two and half hour film, without erring. And err it does, Ajay Devgan comes across as Ajay rather than the martyr. Ajay has given a fabulous performance, but it’s the star that overrides the character. In contrast the supporting characters make more impact than him. Santosh’s The Legend of Bhagat Singh while intense, doesn’t come across as the intelligent hero that he was. The drama build up is commendable. The dialogues by Anjum Rajabali and Piyush Mehra are apt. A.R Rahman’s music is good, although Desh Mere does tend to have a hangover of Chale Chalo of Lagaan. Overall, The Legend of Bhagat Singh is slick and commendable work.


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But, let me say again! Shaheed is going to be a BIGGER hit in INDIA, esp NORTHERN! will rake more MULLAH!
While LEGEN will find more takers OVERSEAS!

But I love aish doing that jogiya song in SHAHEED it is so HEARTWARMING and AUTHENTIC! :baaa: :p


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MORE Bhagat Singh Film Reviews

http://filmfare.indiatimes.com/Article....D2=true (Ajay Devgan's version - ***1/2)
http://filmfare.indiatimes.com/ArticleS ... D=12189058 (Bobby Deol's version - **1/2)

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radiosargam..2/10 rating for shaheed..supposedly looks like more of a documentory..I knew Gudu Dhaona! does not know quality film making of this calibre!

Now question aside as LOBS is going BIG GUNS! DVD? TIPS?
Who have never done a GOOD DVD so far :baaa: ?

So GAEY Bhens yeh bhi paani maen!! :baaa: :devil: :vangry: :bangbang:


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Taran adarsh aa gaya maidan maen:

Is he biased??

On the whole, 23RD MARCH 1931 SHAHEED lacks the power to motivate the viewer. The hype associated with the film compels the viewer to expect a lot from the film, but it falls short of expectations in the final tally. At the box-office, the business in Delhi, Uttar Pradesh and Punjab will be the best.

Rating:- * ½.

Anand Raaj Anand's music is functional. 'Des Nu Chalo' is the pick of the lot, while the remaining numbers are just about okay. The background music (Surinder Sodhi) is effective

http://www.indiafm.com/reviews/02/shaheed/index.shtml

:baaa: DVD? Videosound?


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Personally I would rather Ajay Devgans Legend Of Bhagat Singh. This movie looks like it has done it research on the topic properly and directorally is suppose to be great. This is one I would like to see on the big screen and would like a good DVD of, but coming from TIPS we all know what to expect ???

Bobby Deols version, I just had a feeling from the beginning would suck, they are just trying to cash in on the money. Even story wise, from the reviews, it looks like they have not concentrated on it properly, instead put events together.


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Finally! Comparative review of radiosargam is up, for LOBS?

Giving it 4/10? still calling it BETTER than SHAHEED BHAGAT!

On the whole, The Legend Of Bhagat Singh will win more appreciation from the classes than patronage from the masses. Considering its dull start (outside Bombay) and the inability of the drama to arouse patriotic sentiments, the film will face an uphill task at the box-office except in Bombay-Maharashtra. Business in good cinemas and multiplexes will be better.

http://www.radiosargam.com/movies/movie ... l/lobs.htm :baaa:



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from hindustaimes

SHAHEED

To start with, a warning. If you are not adequately informed about Bhagat Singh's life, the film is not going to make sense.

Whether the fault lies with the makers, the script or director, the loser is definitely the subject, and, by extension the audience. Bhagat Singh's legacy, already distorted by popular legend, is in serious risk of being further eradicated by the recent slew of films. And this film probably has the largest role to play in the distortion.

As for distortions or omissions, this film does not even once mention Singh's ardent belief in communism. The ideology may have fallen out of fashion, but when a film is being made on an actual person, his life's work has to be taken into account. His atheism finds the slightest of mentions. His humanism is more in keeping with latest family-saga trends.

On the other hand, this onscreen Bhagat Singh does do group dancing and bursts into song at the slightest of provocation, aspects that have little basis in his actual life. The film does not just dramatise Bhagat Singh's life, it totally twists most of his life beyond recognition.

What one ends up with is rabble-rousing account, a filmed version of calendar art. Full of one liners designed to draw claps or jeers from the front-benchers, the film manages to reshape Bhagat Singh's life into a fairly formula Bollywood film. All the prior noises about being sticklers to authenticity notwithstanding.

23 March… starts chronologically, with Bhagat Singh's childhood, his formative years in a martyr's family (his uncle Ajit Singh was actively involved in anti-British protest, and suffered for it), his involvement with Gandhi-led Non-cooperation Movement, his disillusionment with Gandhi after its withdrawl… and then it is confusion.

The rest of his life, in this film at least, somehow confused the makers. While Bhagat Singh's meeting Sukhdev and other close companions is missing, as is the formation of his party, the Hindustan Socialist Republican Association (HSRA), events like the Dusshera ground bombing, or shooting Saunders, meeting with Chandrashekhar Azad, escape from Lahore in disguise, the jails stints are got garbled.

References to his love for books comes in the very last scene (in an uncanny similarity to Raj Kumar Santoshi's The Legend of Bhagat Singh). And don't seek his love for debating, his intellectualism, his intense belief in inqalab, not just against the British, but also against any oppressor, his desire for a more egalitarian society, in this film. Inexcusably Gandhi is absent too.

So what does the film have? An overdose of the Deol brothers. Despite Bobby's best efforts (he says so, at least), he is unable to do justice to the role. Neither does he look the part, nor more significantly can be muster up any of the fire and intensity that Bhagat Singh is supposed to have had. And there are utterances that would have profoundly maddened Bhagat Singh. And while Chandrashekhar Azad too had a great love for his country and played a significant part in the struggle against the British, his role in the film has him embroiled in Bhagat Singh's life far more than was actually the case. And Sunny's performance is only slightly less bombastic than his average.

Amrita Singh as Bhagat Singh's mother has too large a role and does it intrusively. On the other hand, Sukhdev, who was perhaps closest to Bhagat Singh, has been pushed to the sidelines. The rest are mere caricatures of the popular image of revolutionaries. For those on the lookout for Aishwarya, she just has a dance number and not a line word of dialogue.

It also has a soundtrack that is too intrusive and loud. Most of the scenes lack any imagination of conception. Production values aren't up to the mark. Recreating 1920's Lahore isn't a success in 23 March…. The idea seems to have been to finish production before the rival versions could.

If you want to see a film about Bhagat Singh, this is definitely not the one to see.

Suman Tarafdar Expert's Rating * and1/2 Viewers' Rating * and1/2

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Of all the firebrand revolutionaries who took on the might of the British Empire during India's freedom struggle, Bhagat Singh is, in a sense, the only man still standing in the nation's collective consciousness. Most of his heroic comrades have been gradually reduced to footnotes on the pages of history, remembered only occasionally in their little pockets of influence when it suits their political inheritors, but over 70 years after he was sent to the gallows at the age of 23, the legend of Bhagat Singh not only survives, it now seems to be on the verge of renewed growth. But could we please spare the great martyr the ignominy of a brazen Bollywood makeover? Must we bestow on him the status of the independence movement's greatest poster boy, a rebel with a glorious cause but a generally misunderstood approach? Nothing could be worse for Bhagat Singh than the fact that history has left him helplessly open to manipulation by Mumbai's profit-seeking filmmakers. Can you imagine denizens of tinsel town falling over each other quite in the same manner to make cinematic biographies on Chandrashekhar Azad or Jatin Das?

Much was expected of Rajkumar Santoshi's reconstruction of Bhagat Singh's life and times. In commercialised Hindi cinema, hopes die first, then substance goes for a toss and finally, if there is anything left to count, kitsch takes over. It would be wrong to say that none of the promise that this production held out is actually delivered, but the film is so overly cast in the hackneyed Bollywood melodramatic mould that it becomes rather difficult to tell where fact ends and fiction begins, and vice versa. It is certainly all very fine to underscore the glorious conduct of Bhagat Singh and his revolutionary mates, Sukhdev and Rajguru, as they marched to their death with a song on their lips and proud twinkles in their eyes: the very thought is enough to create a lump in the throat. But overkill is the style Santoshi adopts to rub in the tragedy. Really, who wants to hear the martyr utter corny lines like "Duniya kya kahegi, Bhagat Singh maut se darkar roya" (What will people say if I break down for the fear of death)?

Mercifully, such lines are few and far between and scenarist Anjum Rajabali and dialogue writer Piyush Mishra make a pretty strong impression for the most part, especially in the scenes where Bhagat Singh explains his political philosophy and his approach to the concept of total independence and plays them off against the Indian National Congress line. But, sadly, the script fights shy of touching upon the freedom fighter's atheism and his strong Marxist moorings. Both facts are half-heartedly tagged on to the fag end of the film: Bhagat Singh is shown reading Lenin's writings in his cell when he is led off to the Hanging Cell. And just before he is hanged, he lets one of the jail officials know that he does not believe in the existence God. Also largely glossed over is his mastery over political theories. His transition from Gandhian nationalism to revolutionary terrorism is established pretty early in the film while Bhagat Singh is still just a boy, but his shift to aggressive socialism is touched upon merely en passant.

If one can overlook the little quibbles, technically and in terms of production values, The Legend of Bhagat Singh is a rather stunning achievement. Especially well executed are the crowd sequences. The film opens with a rapid-fire montage of sequences from the martyr's life, followed by a scene in which the police, faced with rising tempers outside the jail, burn the bodies of the dead heroes on the banks of the Sutlej. Even more startling is the next scene – Mahatma Gandhi is confronted by an angry band of Bhagat Singh followers and accused of not doing enough to save him from death. Gandhi coolly reiterates his abhorrence of violence – that is why I was against the execution of Bhagat Singh, he tells the crowd – and walks away as shouts of "Gandhi hai hai" reverberate on the soundtrack. The rest of the film highlights the difference between the freedom struggle as run by the Congress and the kind independence that the revolutionaries dreamt of. Having seen the depths the nation has sunk to in the 50-odd years since Independence, it is easy to sympathise with Bhagat Singh's insistence on building a nation free of corruption, communal hatred and inequality, but is it really possible to accept the manner in which the film appears to denigrate the values that Gandhi stood for?

The effects of the commercial compulsions at work are pretty evident in the complement of songs and the presence in the storyline of an apocryphal woman who was supposedly in love with Bhagat Singh. While these ingredients do add to the melodramatic tinge and extend the film's length, they also significantly lower the tale's historicity. To Santoshi's credit, however, he extracts some truly remarkable performances from his actors. In the title role, Ajay Devgan delivers what must surely be rated as one his best performances. Totally in control, Devgan uses his piercing eyes and controlled dialogue delivery to carve out a convincing protagonist who bridges the gap between make-believe and reality. The supporting cast keeps pace with him: among those who deserve special mention are the mercurial Sushant Singh as Sukhdev and the robust Akhilendra Mishra as Chandrashekhar Azad.

For all its obvious failings, The Legend of Bhagat Singh is definitely worth a viewing.

Saibal Chatterjee Expert's Rating *** Viewers' Rating ***


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Legend Scores over Shaheed......

http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jun/07bhag.htm

looks like barring the North , LOBS will be more widely appreciated...


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So, The predictions were well on the T?? what do u say Bro? Buffy!!? :baaa: ;) :vsneaky:


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Are there any reviews of the one with Harbhajan Mann up yet?


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Interesting read; an interview with Rajkumar Santoshi, giving details of the film and thoughts on rival Sunnys film;

http://www.screenindia.com/20020607/finter1.html

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arsh wrote:
So, The predictions were well on the T?? what do u say Bro? Buffy!!? :baaa: ;) :vsneaky:

yeah arsh bhai predictions were to the T but back in india Mere yaar ki shaadi hai is doing decent bussiness probably has a little edge on the 2 bhagat singh films and could emerge the winner of the week!!!!!


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