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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:27 pm 
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So I have to call from Amsterdam to I-don't-know-where-in-India/UK/USA!? :shock: :(
Don't they have an e-mailaddress? :oops:


Anwar, try phoning them or contact by e-mail, before going to their HQ. It'll be a lot cheaper. :D

I have no idea, if any of these contacts work, but this is what's on their PARVARISH DVD cover:

Address:
30 Main Ave. Suite 2
Sacramento CA
95838
USA

e-mail:
mailto:ssonu@megapathdsl.net

Ph:
916-921-2830

Fax:
916-921-2832

Good Luck.

Rana

Thanks, Rana-ji! :)
Going to their HQ is a DOOR KI BAAT! :P


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Anwar wrote:
Going to their HQ is a DOOR KI BAAT! :P


Obviously. Concorde doesn't fly any more. :(

Rana


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Hey guys,
recently my friend went to one of the shops in chicago to buy the dvds and when he asked for the reason of DEI-EROS split, the shop owner told that , when they were producing dvds DEI used to manufacture some more of the prints than demanded by EROS and used to sell it through backdoor at a much a cheaper price and when EROS came to know of it , it straight away broke its venture.


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when they were producing dvds DEI used to manufacture some more of the prints than demanded by EROS and used to sell it through backdoor at a much a cheaper price and when EROS came to know of it , it straight away broke its venture.


DEI-EROS DVD clearly stated marketed by DEI. Initially, DEI was the one marketing those DVDs, not EROS.

Rana


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Sorry, duplicate post.


Last edited by rana on Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:43 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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monizam wrote:
rana wrote:
enjoy wrote:
Hey guys,
when they were producing dvds DEI used to manufacture some more of the prints than demanded by EROS and used to sell it through backdoor at a much a cheaper price and when EROS came to know of it , it straight away broke its venture.


DEI-EROS DVD clearly stated marketed by DEI. Initially, DEI was the one marketing those DVDs, not EROS.

Rana


DEI had their own web site and sold dvds including their own
ERos also had their own web site and sold their own dvds..
So why did Eros took DEI to court and won--Has to be some truth in the story about manufacturing more dvds and pocketing the difference..


This is what Sunny Audit had reported on his IndianDVDnewspage site:
DEI-EROS collaboration has ended. Money was the reason.

After their split, DEI kept on pressing DEI-EROS discs, over which EROS took them to court and won and stopped them.

This is what I heard from one of DEI's competitor/ friend:
DEI kept on pressing DEI-EROS discs claiming that they have the right to do it and the case is with the lawyers(perhaps appeals). But eventually, DEI was too small to keep the fight 'ON' with a Giant and washed their hands declaring bankruptcy.


My comment:
Even now, DEI-EROS DVDs are abundantly available on various medias as pirates. Looks like more than one party is making them. Who are they?? It could be anybody, including EROS, DEI, or any and many third parties.

Rana


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yup I am sure they are available on Pirated as I some bought last week :lol:


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In the meanwhile, they are unleashing substandard shits and are calling them DVDs. Guess who is lapping them up?, You BEIteers here. "One for all (THREE) and all (THREE)


If you say that these are substandard dvds then Please also define the kind of dvd you are looking from indian dvd manufactures and also the dvd you appreciate the most from a non dei/bei manufacturer (dont include the phoren dvds they are way ahead). As, it will really help us to understand your logic of blasphemy towards DEI.


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monizam wrote:
DEI being less than honest did the logical thing associated with crooks, violated their contractual agreement with EROS. The inevitable then happened, EROS sued the pants off them. Scumbags then declared bankruptcy


You must have an axe to grind against DEI and are saying this.

What I said before, and am repeating here, doesn't come from DEI or from myself, but from one of DEI's competitor:

This is what I heard from one of DEI's competitor/ friend:
DEI kept on pressing DEI-EROS discs claiming that they have the right to do it and the case is with the lawyers(perhaps appeals). But eventually, DEI was too small to keep the fight 'ON' with a Giant and washed their hands declaring bankruptcy.

BTW, I defend only DEI's good work that is Progressive encodings and on good media. Lately they have released a few titles with field averaged encodings and some on time bomb media. I feel cheated on those just like any one else. But that's the purpose of zulm forums. When you see a good product, spread the word around to benefit others and when you see a bad product, warn others, which I have always done. Declaring all DVDs equally bad or equally good, doesn't help any one.

Rana


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enjoy, man , now we r 4some, crazy ones..welcome


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Hi Monizam,
I dont know exactly how many dvds released by non DEI/BEI are Like Abhinetri, but I can be pretty sure that None of those companies can ever achieve the quality of DON,AAA,Parvarish if you are talking of old movies and I think you should watch HDDCS,KNPH for there new releases and even then if you say abhinetri is far better than all these dvds then only god can help you.
As someone posted that DEI is not completely perfect, yeah i do agree with him/her but certainly its the best available dvds. (Ofcourse we are talking about indian manufactures).
Now, I also agree with you that we are criticizing each and every dvds based on there phoren counterparts, but, you are making a blunder by including DEI in your list of worthless dvds. As atleast they are striving hard to compete with phoreigners and you should appreciate them.
Atlast thanks for explaining the meaning of Blasphemy :D .


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rana wrote:
monizam wrote:
rana wrote:
enjoy wrote:
Hey guys,
when they were producing dvds DEI used to manufacture some more of the prints than demanded by EROS and used to sell it through backdoor at a much a cheaper price and when EROS came to know of it , it straight away broke its venture.


DEI-EROS DVD clearly stated marketed by DEI. Initially, DEI was the one marketing those DVDs, not EROS.

Rana


My comment:
Even now, DEI-EROS DVDs are abundantly available on various medias as pirates. Looks like more than one party is making them. Who are they?? It could be anybody, including EROS, DEI, or any and many third parties.

Rana


Further to my comment on who is making DEI-EROS DVDs now:

Obviously, someone or many are still producing DEI-EROS DVDs. I was at an EROS loyal store. When DEI was functioning, they did not use to have DEI-EROS DVDs if EROS version existed. Now they had lots of DEI-EROS titles. DEI-EROS covers used to state "Marketed by DEI" (example: BORDER), and these DVD covers still stated the same. How could DEI be marketting them now?? DEI doesn't exist. As this store is/ was EROS loyalist, I suspect it's EROS distributing these DVDs and still using godwill generated by DEI.

Rana


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Obviously, someone or many are still producing DEI-EROS DVDs. I was at an EROS loyal store. When DEI was functioning, they did not use to have DEI-EROS DVDs if EROS version existed. Now they had lots of DEI-EROS titles. DEI-EROS covers used to state "Marketed by DEI" (example: BORDER), and these DVD covers still stated the same. How could DEI be marketting them now?? DEI doesn't exist. As this store is/ was EROS loyalist, I suspect it's EROS distributing these DVDs and still using godwill generated by DEI.


Caramba! Inspector Clouseau discovering the powers of deduction! Hehehe! :P :P


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[color=#FF0000]rana indulge me what does progressive transfering got to do with the condition of a bad print where no attempt has been made to clean it up are you infering that progressive techniques will by itself clean up the print and hence any progessive transfer means a good dvd {If you say KISMAT (it's progressive) print is bad, }



Finally someone understood :lol:


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[color=#FF0000] what does progressive transfering got to do with the condition of a bad print where no attempt has been made to clean it up are you infering that progressive techniques will by itself clean up the print and hence any progessive transfer means a good dvd {If you say KISMAT (it's progressive) print is bad, }



Finally someone understood :lol:


I'm not defending "Not cleaning up the film print or using bad media". But on the whole, I found KISMAT a lot better than other releases of these days. To my eyes, KISMAT is not the worst DEI/BEI DVD.

Now consider a flop film like KISMAT, 35 yrs old, never in demand, forgotten.
How do you restore a film??
Cut most of the film (spoiled segments) like Shemaroo Teen Devian (Climax missing) and many others??
Or use a 10th generation VHS copy of 23 yrs ago telecine that has gone through multi copies and multi format (PAL-NTSC-SECAM) changes back and forth?? Definitely, 23 yrs ago, film was in a better shape than today.

Rana


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