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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:23 pm 
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According to Ayngaran's site, it's ready for order despite the PRE-ORDER watermark (Ayn hasn't taken it off yet).

There's a BUY NOW option so yes.

And yes, Surya S/O Krishnan is the Telugu dubbed version of Vaaranam Aayiram.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:28 pm 
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VAARANAM AAYIRAM AYNGARAN SHOTS

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:53 pm 
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SURYA SON OF KRISHNAN (TELUGU DUB VERSION) SHOTS [UNIVERSAL HOME ENTERTAINMENT]

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:05 am 
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:59 pm 
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Kamal Hassan's biggest experiment to save money, play every single character in the film!

Even if its Obama or Bush!


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:49 am 
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It's actually a good movie that revolves around the Vishnu idol throughout the film and address the proper use of the Chaos Theory. The statue that govind and aandaal carry throughout the movie was the replacement for the big govindaraajar statue thrown into the sea in the 12th century. Thats the link.

You cant just start a story by saying only the events that happened around it...Govind as a rationalist uses the example of the Nambi episode in 12th century to portray that nobody would accept someone's death as the fault of god. But in case of the tsunami, science can be blamed as the satellite imagery could have atleast generated a warning for people in coastal areas to move to safe positions. But the theists would never accept a fault with their religion or god.
As per the story, there might be negative criticism that the tsunami was shown as a blessing that saves the world from the dangers of the bio-weapon. But the protagonist's argument is that it is not a blessing from god but rather a scientific fault with the tectonic plates 80lakh years ago. The impact of scientific findings is that it can always be blamed in case of a natural disaster as people accept the facts but theist never blame god for that, whom they consider controls the entire world.

The Nambi episode as per one of the Kamal's interviews that I read is also something to portray that we are still repeating our mistakes without learning from the past. And remember he was just showing the religious clash between two different sects under Hinduism...the impact was to the level of killing another person who doesn't believe in their god. He also gives a short clue that all these happened when only Hinduism was known to India...a time when Jesus and Allah did not reach India yet. Now the world has a plethora of religions leading to differences among people.

One awesome brilliance just struck my mind. When Govind gets wounded in the head, he gets a dressing which resembles the antichrist. As per theology, antichrist is the one who shows the positive power of god but in a destructive manner.In the film, Asin argues that the tsunami is the act of god. She refuses to accept that though it was destructive, it saved the people from the dangers of the biological weapon.

Basically a chaotic system is one wherein long term predictions are impossible. Like for example,if I push a car, I know that it is going to move and it will continue to do so if I go on pushing it on and on. However,in a chaotic system,this situation cannot be predicted over a long period of time. Weather for example is a chaotic system. No matter how good your instruments are,you simply cannot predict the weather with 100% accuracy over a long term basis and forecast it. This is put forward by the butterfly effect which is the most important component of a chaotic system. Basically,small perturbations results in amplifications which completely destroys the original nature of the system and makes prediction impossible. If a butterfly flaps its wings in Africa,it could result in a cyclone in USA.(Mark the word COULD)A highly dumbed down explanation of the butterfly effect is in the film Anniyan,where Vikram’s sister dies because a liquor shop owner sells liquor on a dry day.

Now, the question arises: how does the film incorporate this? Basically, the movie talk about 9 characters who though unrelated to the principal character (Govind) as such, drive his destiny. Without Bush, the plane would have been turned back; if Kalfullah wouldn’t have met Govind, Fletcher would have killed him very quickly. Each and every character drives Govind to the seashore, which when the tsunami strikes, is the right place to be, because the high content of salt in the roaring waves destroys the virus. This is the essence of chaos theory where totally unrelated incidents actually drive the world and affect one and all.

Now the question arises: how does Rangarajan Nambi fit into this puzzle? When the idol is submerged into the sea, the orderly nature of the sea and the sea bed is disturbed by a small amount. As per the butterfly effect stated above, the succeeding effects get amplified and ultimately result in a tsunami 800 years later. Kamal has applied chaos theory to plate tectonics which according to modern science is still under some debate.

So does the movie preach atheism or theism? Well, the answer is neither. It simply tells that humans drive the destiny of the world. You may take it as you want to. The theists among us would say that the 12th century incident was engineered by God, to save the world from the deadly virus. The atheists and rationalists will say that separate incidents amplified and modified by chaos theory resulted in the tsunami which was both good and bad. All I can say is that both points of view are correct and I am sure your respective beliefs were reinforced at the end of the film. In my opinion, this is the brilliance of Kamal Haasan, the screenplay writer.

The movie also talks about Karma theory and the cycle of life and birth. One can consider Govind as a reincarnation of Nambi who dies failing to protect his ideology and is redeemed in the next birth by standing for what he thinks is right. Kothai and Nambi are separated at the idol and in the end of the movie the two are united at the same idol as Govind and Aandal.


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:32 pm 
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The screenplay is quite deep and clever in places, but the film is overshadowed by poor special effects and OTT acting from Kamal Hassan in bad make up.

It would have worked better if the 10 characters were played by different people.


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:37 pm 
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You know and I know, the film is junk!


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:57 pm 
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is there an item number by jia khan in this film? I'd watch it for that :D


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:41 am 
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Nick, the movie sounds good when you put it into words like that (taken apart from the actual movie, hehe) but the movie itself is a mess. Bloated, overlong, bad special effects and make-up, and sometimes laughable accents from Kamal. Really, Kamal, you're going to play two white men, a very tall man who speaks funny, an old woman, and a Japanese man in the film? Kamal is channeling Eddie Murphy here. If the film was tighter, better directed, and gave each character a little more to do besides just be a cog in the plot this might have been a better film. It could have been a light entertainer if it wasn't so violent in certain parts.

Butterfly theory is nothing special in a plot IMO. Even Ashton Kutcher was in a movie about it :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 5:24 am 
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seem, it is hindustani cloned x multiple! :(


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 4:03 am 
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So you would rather see junk like Sottaji and Kustalean that got a nice thrashing in the form of collections?

Granted, no MAKEUP is perfect. Humans aren't 100% perfect. No one expected perfect makeup. Let me ask you, did Aamir Khan have perfect makeup in Ghajini inspite of his "age wrinkles" splattered throughout the flashback? Despite great tech support, nope, Ghajini failed in that department. We're not Hollywood. Stop nitpicking about what is bound to be NOT PERFECT. I bet you can't weave a plot about chaos theory with 10 characters because it would be too much. Yep. That's why the majority can't understand the movie. They prefer crappers like Sottaji and Ghajini.

Kamal's said this many times: When Hey Ram! released, people panned it because it gave Gandhi a bad name, but with a focus. Now today, people are appreciating it. So what? It's too late now to translate praise into collections way late into the game.

Anbe Sivam. What a class plot taken with INSPIRATION (read, not copy) of Planes and Trains concept of two people from different views and worlds. What happened to that back in 2003? People panned makeup but he WAS SUPPOSED to have that makeup because the plot demanded it. Then it failed miserably, but now like the "Hey Ram" effect, people now praise it like anything.

See, no matter how conceiving and out of the box and ahead of times Kamal's screenplays are, people fail it at first but appreciate it later. Given that Dasa was under his and KSR's supervision, you saw what you saw. Granted, if Kamal did the film, it would've been better w/o the Ulaga Nayagan song at the end. Kamal already was in charge of practically everything while Ravikumar just organized the troops and crew.

So the next time you bash Kamal for anything, think that India's not perfect. We're not Hollywood. Let it sink in your heads. Or go watch mentalkanth's sottaji if you feel any better.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 6:55 am 
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I hated Sivaji and Ghajini too, so I'm not sure what your point is. If someone disagrees with you on a film they have terrible taste?

As for the makeup, when the character required mild adjustments (like Balram Naidu) the makeup was good and the character looked like a real person. When Kamal tried to do extreme transformations he looked more like the puppets in Genesis' Land of Confusion video :D Kamal's makeup in Anbe Sivam worked because it was simple and the film wasn't about the makeup. With Dasavatharam the main selling point was one actor playing ten roles in a film. Kamal is too good an actor to hide behind poorly done rubber masks anyways.

Dasavatharam was a big hit, so you can't claim that the film was shunned or misunderstood or anything like that. I admire Kamal bringing science and religious ideas to a Tamil film (though the science seemed half-baked). At best it is a thriller/potboiler that has some ambitions beyond the genre, but is overly obsesssed with the Dasavatharam concept and has some rather laughable points to it (Kamal's American accents, Mallika Sherawat's presence, the cancer-bullet thing, etc.)


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:39 pm 
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Just Saw Dasavataram Yesterday..And I have To Say..Wah Kya Gaand Kiya Hai Kamal Haasan Ne....
The 1st half Was Good, Intresting, But The 2nd Half Was Just F*ucked Up, The Story Gets Messed Up, Most Of The Character Looked Like Wax Models..And The 2nd Half Was More About Comedy Then Thrills, Suspense Ect..And The Effects Were Crap...Kamal Haasan Was Ok..And Why Did He make The Sardar Sing In Tamil:S


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:55 pm 
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Ayngaran has released Villu dvd without any play all songs in Menu. Hate that. :(


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