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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 3:24 pm 
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Just as everybody else says....the movie was simply mind blowing...

Its amazing the kind of performances Verma can extract from his actors....even the screechy Koirala (IMHO) makes an impact with little said...

And the smart guy that Verma is...he uses Devgan's eyes or actually lack thereof by hiding them behind his coolers. All Devgan has then to convey the chills are his body language, his silences and his voice....A smashing performance.....And not to take away from the other guys' credit either.....Vivek Oberoi is vulnerability and raw intensity rolled into one...Mohanlal is genteel craftiness as he plays a thinking officer of the law....

Guys this is a DVD worth collecting and keeping just for the story....

And what a superb background score....i might go and see it again just to listen to 'Ganda hai, par dhanda hai yeh' pop up into my face every other time....

A true blue classic this one....


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Can't wait to see this one...

Guys did you know Mohanlal's role was first offered to

Amitabh Bachchan.

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are you sure it was Bachchan it was offered to ? I thought it was offered to Kamalhaasan since the need was for a South Indian cop. In any case I am glad neither did it for Mohanlal has Brought to it something neither of these guys could have.....enjoy the flick....


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I'm definitely going to see Company in the theater this weekend, even if I do have to drive 30 minutes (I guess this is why Eros produces utter crap DVDs), but has the DVD come out yet? Indiaplaza said it was coming out the second week of April.


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What a flick!!!!!!!

I saw it here in NY, and the subtitles were crazy.
"Shut the window" turned into "Shut the F@$^&# window" in subtitles. The f word was used so many times in the subs that it was crazy. I wonder if that was intended by Verma himself!

Is it the same in the UK?

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I don't think the subtitles have anything to do with Varma. Here in Singapore, some retard did the subtitles. "Hong Kong" became "Australia". "Could" became "Couldn't". I dunno how non Hindi-speakers understood anything in the film.


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Just come back from watching Company on my own believe it or not (Basically my arsehole mates backed out and i was determined to watch it) and i have to say this is one of the best movies i have EVER seen come out of bollywood!! it overshadows movies like Satya, Vaastav etc and sticks out like a sore thumb!! ... Easily the best film since sholay!!

Hey! I really enjoyed this film a LOT. But the Best film since Sholay? ??? I wouldn't even consider it better than Satya. BTW, read my review of Company at IMDb (my review is under bolly_b)

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faddy wrote:
Just come back from watching Company on my own believe it or not (Basically my arsehole mates backed out and i was determined to watch it) and i have to say this is one of the best movies i have EVER seen come out of bollywood!! it overshadows movies like Satya, Vaastav etc and sticks out like a sore thumb!! ... Easily the best film since sholay!!

Hey! I really enjoyed this film <b>a LOT[/b]. But the Best film since Sholay? ??? I wouldn't even consider it better than Satya. BTW, read my review of Company at IMDb (my review is under bolly_b)

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faddy wrote:
Just come back from watching Company on my own believe it or not (Basically my arsehole mates backed out and i was determined to watch it) and i have to say this is one of the best movies i have EVER seen come out of bollywood!! it overshadows movies like Satya, Vaastav etc and sticks out like a sore thumb!! ... Easily the best film since sholay!!

Hey! I really enjoyed this film <b>a LOT[/b]. But the Best film since Sholay? ??? I wouldn't even consider it better than Satya. BTW, read my review of Company at IMDb (my review is under bolly_b)

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Are u gone nuts in ganda company?? :p :baaa: cheers!! Collector dude!


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DVD Collector,
I just read your review of Company - and I just cannot agree with some of your claims and views. For one, Chandan Arora's editing was superb and very sophisticated. He is easily one of the best editors in Bollywood alongside (late)Renu Saluja(1942 A Love Story), Suresh Urs(Dil Se) and and Sreekar Prasad(Dil Chahta Hai, Fiza).

Also, putting it on the same level as Sarfarosh is downright ridiculous! Sarfarosh has got silly little Bollywood sub-plots, poor direction, politically correct Hindu & Muslim characters, silly song sequences and strictly average technical values. Also, Sonali Bendre's role was bordering on pathetic in the film.
The film was merely cashing in on Hindu-Muslim sentiments, so obviously...


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guys:

I'm new to the forum (my first message). am so very happy to see people discussing hindi (Indian) movies so seriously.

watched "company" on the 16th. had to literally force my friends to stay back in DC (I was hitching a ride with them). need to watch the movie again on DVD (it's been 10 days -USPS has messed up the indiaweekly order) ???

the moment I came out of the hall I didn't remember any particular scene of the movie (except couple of hard hitting ones). what I still vividly remember is devgan's acting, vivek oberoi's angry looks and mohanlal. nothing particular about him - just his presence in the film. as someone wrote in a review "mohanlal makes it look like reality - there's no acting involved". need to watch "vaanaprastham". RGV has delivered it again and along with DCH and lagaan, I'd rate it the best movie that I've seen in a while. :)

Shahran Sunny Audit: what kinda bengali movies have you been watching? except perhaps rituporno ghosh, nobody else makes any decent movies there anymore. gautam ghosh and mrinal sen are way too infrequent.

about good gangster movies: has anyone seen (late)bharat rangachari's hindi adaptation of "the godfather" - "zulm kee hukumat"? the name sounds wacky but it has good performances by dharmendra, shakti kapoor, moushumi chatterjee and paresh rawal. not to forget, govinda's best performance to date. the songs can be ignored (better if edited out).

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Aryan wrote:
Chandan Arora's editing was superb and very sophisticated. He is easily one of the best editors in Bollywood alongside (late)Renu Saluja(1942 A Love Story), Suresh Urs(Dil Se) and and Sreekar Prasad(Dil Chahta Hai, Fiza).

hi aryan!

chandan arora's jump cuts were interesting, comparable to the young (then) apurva asrani's (along with bhanodaya) in "satya". though I liked the satya style better, arora has shown he is in the same class as renu saluja (parinda).

what I would have liked to see was mazhar kamran's photography instead of hemant chaturvedi's in "company". chaturvedi is good but I'd rather see the "kaun" style of camera work (especially the camera on the stairs kind) stay in RGV's movies.

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DVD Collector,
I just read your review of Company - and I just cannot agree with some of your claims and views. For one, Chandan Arora's editing was superb and very sophisticated. He is easily one of the best editors in Bollywood alongside (late)Renu Saluja(1942 A Love Story), Suresh Urs(Dil Se) and and Sreekar Prasad(Dil Chahta Hai, Fiza).

Also, putting it on the same level as Sarfarosh is downright ridiculous! Sarfarosh has got silly little Bollywood sub-plots, poor direction, politically correct Hindu & Muslim characters, silly song sequences and strictly average technical values. Also, Sonali Bendre's role was bordering on pathetic in the film.
The film was merely cashing in on Hindu-Muslim sentiments, so obviously...

About Company: Not only its editing, but this film didn't have a strong script. If killing someone because of any one mistake is a policy in Malik's danda. Than why didn't he kill Manisha's character after she revealed to him that she had phoned chandu's wife about someone coming to kill him, and because of her, the punditji character died. Why did Malik let her go? because she was his girl? Well, that's an Inconsistency in the script. It shows that Malik doesn't completely follow his own company's policy and makes exceptions for his love ones. And why did Chandu's wife really need to die in the film? Because later on both Malik & Chandu become friends. Only because Malik finds out that Punditji coming to kill Chandu was a misconception. One side thought that Punditji would bring back Chandu into the gang, and the other side thought that Punditji was coming to kill Chandu. I see no point to Chandu's wife's death in the film. It doesn't carry forward the movie at all? It seems that the major parts of the film happen all due to misconceptions. When Malik is killed, that too, because of misconception, Vijay Raaz's character(the one who shoots Malik) didn't know that Malik & Chandu had resolved there differences and had become friends again. If he had known, he wouldn't had killed Malik.

About Sarfarosh: Yes, the film did have a typical Bollywood sub-plot(s). But you'll have to explain to me how the film was poorly directed? I thought everyone in the film gave a fantastic performance. Sarfarosh has to be easily Aamir Khan's top 3 performances of his career, even Mukesh Rishi gives his best performance in this film. Sarfarosh is director John Mathew Matthan's first film, and he did a terrific job in extracting good performances out of everyone. And I thought the depiction of the muslim character in Salim was quite real. But the film also tries to portray a positive stereo-type in Muslim people in India through the relations between Salim & ACP Rathod. I felt the technical values in Sarfarosh were excellent. Much superior editing in this film than in Company. The film had very simple and realistic art direction. Yes, again there were the silly typical bollywood sub-plot. But I felt that this was only practiced to give this film a Bollywood film look, and not turn it into an art film or off-beat film. And I really enjoy such films, because the filmmakers get there vital point across through a large amount of audience even if presented in a typical bollywood manner. Mind you, Sarfarosh was a HIT in India, which was a surprise to me, because of the positive stereo-type in Salim's character in the film. I thought that the Indian public wouldn't accept it. Ontop of all this, Sarfarosh had a strong script. It didn't have any loopholes like Company did.

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DVD C and not to forget Sarfarosh also depicts a perfect fool proof plan how to get rid of ISI bugs from your land :) (the last scene !)

IMO, the only places where they actually mentioned something abt Hindu-Muslim sentiments were a couple of dialogues ( Inspector Salim's biradari waley asking him to join them, as their quam was in danger..and also ACP rathod expressing apprehensions abt Inspector Salim via insinuations !)

I only with the DVD of Company was produced a bit more methodically ! The wankas @ EROS have really raped this film by their lousy presentation !


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