Do both the UK/US Eros Version & the Indian Eros Version have the same menu

LOLZ! Even I do the peeling stuff!

I think Eros titles for Navketan films are pretty good. I liked their Jewel Thief, Guide & Johnny Mera Naam more than Shemaroo

From various screen shots on the prev page, and comments, it's obvious, EROS release in India, replicated by KRCD has a far better print than the other versions.

I thought I had the Shemaroo version and as I saw an EROS DVD, I picked it up. At home, as I checked, although it was EROS, it was not the one replicated by KRCD version. Instead, it was by Jet Speed. But, it sure was Indian version.
The DVD that I did bnot remember that I already had was US/ UK version EROS DVD of a few Yrs back.

Comparing the 2 EROS versions that I have, here are my observations:

1) EROS DVD replicated by Jet Speed, is not the same as KRCD one. Actually, it's much closer to the US/UK version. Although it has 5 frame repeat pattern (meaning no 4% speed shift) it seems to be copied from the US/ UK version, with some loss in PQ. It's further evident by noticing combing pattern (Power DVD - Force Weave) that shows 4 combing frames and one non-combing frame (never seen this pattern before) sequence. The US/ UK version is 3 non-combing and two combing frames. Looks like, the US/UK version was used as master to make the Jet Speed version, adding 2 more combing frames, in 5 frame sequence, due to mismatch or something ??

2) Both DVD covers state the film length to be 165 min while it's the full 174 min in both DVD versions.
1970 Film CC shows 4784 meters which is 174 min run time.

I have no idea, how to get lucky finding the KRCD replicated EROS DVD ?? It seems to be the best PQ.

Is the Eros KRCD Indian version Progressive?? Or interlaced with no speed - up (what we call 'Pseudo - Progressive)??

Looking at the shots Newdeep provided, KRCD replicated EROS DVD is very sharp and it may very well be Progressive. As Newdeep mentioned its run time at full 174 min, it's Film to NTSC, most likely Progressive or at least a good Pseudo Prog.

(We have been calling Pseudo Progressive to those encodings that don't have Progressive Flags and don't contain more than one film frame info in one video field. This way, with a suitable routine, one can recreate the original film frames and re-encode into a 24 fps Progressive video. If the video fields are mixed up into each other, you can't do that.)

Thanks!!
But Shame - Aroo Pseudo Progressive DVDs cannot recreate 24 frames possibly due to Chroma - Lag (?)... correct me if I'm wrong.
I've also seen Eagle DVDs of JMN in stores. To be avoided, yes?

Correcting chroma lag should not be a problem as chroma and luminance signals are separated as we know since the Super-VHS days. But, the question is, did some equipment manufacturer think of this possibility that someone could be doing it, to begin with ?? Once known of this possibility, making a routine to pick up chroma signal and put it back with the original frame should be trivial.

But why don't Shemaroo DVDs detect 2 - 3 pulldown and play Pseudo - Progressive DVDs as Progressive?

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newDEEP, can you confirm whether your KRCD replicated version is Progressive or not?

Mr. rana, I think, you had once mentioned that Shemaroo M - E - A color DVD has Chroma Lag, & hence, can't detect 2 - 3 or 3 - 2 (I don't know) pulldown, or something like that ??

I can't recall 100 %, nor can I locate or quote the same as I'm using my Nokia 3110 cell which will take hell lot of time.

Do you remember?

This is what you said there

Depends on the comparison criteria and on noise tolerance.

1-C1, 1-C1, 2-C2, 2-C2, 2-C2, 3-C3, 3-C3, 4-C4, 4-C4, 4-C4, - - - - See 2-3 sequence.

With Chroma shift:
-------1C1, 2C1, 2C2, 2C2, 3C2, 3C3, 4C3, 4C4, 4C4, - - - - See, there is no 2-3 sequence if comparing routine is looking at Chroma signal as well.

^ LOL!! All this is beyond the comprehension of my immature mind!!

But I appreciate your knowledge and patience a lot

It's a simple sequence recognition. Let me make it more clear:

1C1, 1C1,
2C2, 2C2, 2C2,
3C3, 3C3,
4C4, 4C4, 4C4,
5C5,5C5,
6C6,6C6,6C6

(1C1: first 1 is the frame #, C1 is Chroma signal meant for frame #1)

See, there is 2-3,2-3,2-3 sequence.

If chroma lag, you won't see this 2-3 sequence.
1C1,
2C1,
2C2, 2C2,
3C2,
3C3,
4C3,
4C4, 4C4,

Thanks for the clarification!
Deeply appreciated!
Will ponder soon.. Got 'Mole Concept' from Chemistry to break my head over!

I'm understanding much better now.
Thanks!!