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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 6:22 pm 
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dograk wrote:
western distributor ka kya....it'll go to eros!

look at the distributors of his previous:
MDK- yashraj
NTJNH - eros
AMALL - spark
MK - ct (but that was a once in a lifetime...)
FIZA - vs
KNPH - dei


unless its something extraordinary....it'll go to the normal desi bhais...and it'll only be eros that could afford its' rights (which will be comparatively higher)

But those movies are ones which Hrithik starred in...... it's been even worse with Rakesh Roshan movies.

Kaho Naa Pyaar Hai - DEI
Karan Arjun - Eros
Koyla - Video Sound (?)

Going back to his older movies, I think in the UK, Khudgarz was released by Apollo, and Khoon Bhari Maang was released by Shiva Video. So it looks like the distributors could be anyone.....


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DEi has some sort of understanding with J Om Prakash (Rakesh Roshan's Father - in - law). I think The attack took place as Lull and Co complained to Dawood bhai to teache RR a lesson as EROS did not get the rights for KNPH !


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In Hollywood they would fix
it digitally in post production. In Bollywood they can't.
It's not really that difficult to do. Digital colour correction in post was used in Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham.

Not difficult, but Bollywood has barely started using
digital technology. K3G was 2 years later and the most
expensive film till then.
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See, the thing is I don't like 90% of Bollywood films. They are badly made. I try not to look at them. But I get frustrated when the bad ones are applauded when there are plenty of better Bollywood films around. They shouldn't be technically mediocre. If they are, we, as informed and savvy movie watchers should reject them. Frankly, I'm far more irritated by bad editing and cinematography than a poorly mastered DVD. Imagine, if some poorly made DVD by EROS goes on to be the highest selling Hindi DVD ever and it becomes the benchmark and representative of Hindi DVDs (something like Devdas) - doesn't that irritate you.

Of course. But technique is one thing and the film is
another. I do not reject a film from start to finish
because it has technical flaws. I still can enjoy the
moments that work, show a nice idea, have a touch of poetry,
are outrageously silly, whatever. This is very subjective
and what I enjoy others might find completely unappealing.
If you don't accept a Bollywood film by its own rules you
can only hate them. There is still a lot of quality variation within these rules to chose your favourites and
your objects of 'hate'.
Concerning the quality of DVDs Indians get what they
deserve. The Indian consumer shapes the market. It reflects
his preferences. It bothers me as much as you and most on
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The repetition of shots
irritates me too at times. It's one of these trendy devices
that look old quickly as soon it gets repeated too often...
You agree it's bad...but you don't say why it is ok in this case.

Amisha raising her head three times was quite funny to me.
It's the moment he falls in love so it needs stylisation.
Nothing that ruins the film for me.
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In the case of cinematography - the poor focus is usually due to the ancient Cinemascope lenses being used in the industry. These lenses don't correct aberrations as well the Panavision ones in Hollywood. Also, these lenses require a lot of light to have enough depth of field so as not to cause focus problems. I suspect these poor focus shots are a result of these factors. Of course, these problems should be attempted to be minimised as much as possible.

When in the same scene one shot is fuzzy and the next sharp
the focus puller did not do his job. It's as simple as that.
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What makes it special are some sequences that are quite well
executed technically and Hrithik Roshan's undeniable screen
presence and star quality.
...
Which scenes? There is certainly no technically brilliant scene in the film I can remember. I think an under-rated film like Leela is far more technically brilliant...but who's gonna notice?

I have only seen the DVD so I don't know how a print looks.
Some scenes I found to be well done (well done is not brilliant)
- Disco song
- The attack in the garage followed by the race on the
road
- the last song
- the scenes on the beach with the motive of standing in
the sun
- the flashback moment (making faces)
- the opening
...
It's simply a film I enjoyed on some levels at times and
and other times less so. It's no masterpiece at all and
certainly not the best Hindi film of that year. We don't
need to argue about that.
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Hrithik Roshan's presence is undeniable. I'm not denying that, In fact, I firmly believe that if the film didn't have him, but some other unknown new guy, the film would have completely sunk without a trace.

Quite possible. The film did what it was supposed to do,
showcase his talents and launch him into orbit.
What bothers me much more is that except for Fiza and MK
the gifts have been wasted from then on on material that
is overall not the kind of film the best talents of the country should focus on (exclusively). But that is a problem
every Bollywood actor and actress has. And it's again a
reflection of the market for which the Indians themselves
are responsible.

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The 4th picture of Hrithik and Preity looks like from MK???

BTW, does any body remember the film called ? star man?
Jeff bridges? any inspiration from that?


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3rd and 4th ones don't look too good(not even interesting)...wonder why they are showing them??


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The Indian consumer shapes the market. It reflects
his preferences. It bothers me as much as you and most on
this forum.

Well what can I say Michel, that's what I'm saying about the films, and not only the DVDs. The audience 'chose' to like a shoddy money-spnner like KNPH. They get what they deserve - I gues u r right.


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unsophiscated audience = bad dvds


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i got the idea of this from the indolink forum, but it might be true : the story is that of hrithik being the nerdy chap who dreams of priety as shown in the first two pictures. then he meets the alien, and becomes a "cool" guy, a la KNPH, as shown in the 3rd and 4th pictures. because of his "cool"ness he gets to be with preity.some chap at indolink posted some stuff about hrithik being dressed up like the char. in the 2nd half of KNPH for a photoshoot for KMG.....

and considering the paucity of ideas in bwood, it could be true...


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Well, I must say, Hrithik needs a SEVERE fresh MAKE OVER and HIR CUT to look KOOL! Man!! he Stills look like KOOL TERRORIST from FIZA/MK!IMHO,

LOOKING on the pics, it looks another DISASTER in making IMHO!

HRITHIK should stop wearing those GIRLIE clothes, especially round bottomed shirts too, otherwise he is all set to become a DARMIYANA icon! :nopity:


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