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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:38 pm 
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If i remeber correctly Roja was released by DEI and was a very good dvd.

Masti yeah it sure was... with the problem that it was the dubbed version and not the original Tamil version...

A definitive DVD for Roja should be.. the original Tamil soundtrack, with the dubbed Telugu and Hindi versions as well as an English soundtrack for international audiences....with all sorts of subtitling... This to ensure that the release is truely international in nature


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I've only seen 10 Mani Ratnam films, and from the 10 that I have seen, here's how I would place them inorder from 1-10(mind you, all of them were good films, and it goes to show how great of a filmmaker Mani Ratnam is).

1. Kannathil Muthamittal
2. Roja
3. Nayagan
4. Alai Payuthey
5. Bombay
6. Dil Se
7. Dalapathi
8. Gitanjali
9. Mouna Ragam
10. Unaroo

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Masti Man wrote:
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If i remeber correctly Roja was released by DEI and was a very good dvd.

But since originally Roja was in MOno so was it's DEI DVD. One of the reasons I am looking forward to a DVD of this remastered Roja is that the sound is being remixed for 5.1 surround. Can't wait to here the wonderful Rehman score in 5.1


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If the sound for Roja is being remixed in 5.1, then (referring to sknath's post) the choice of language has already been made...


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looking forward to dvd of roja, on the level of Mitre!!! it is not Impossible!! If CINABELLA can give 4 sound tracks, CT two for Mk, Ayangran has EXPERTISE too!!

Sunny audit to make note pls! :baaa: :cool:


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ali wrote:
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The dvd did show however that eros can author dvds but they are just lazy sh*theads :ffs:

You'll find that Eros didn’t actually author this DVD - most of there DVDs are not authored by themselves but out sourced to third parties. Dil Se was done by DEI originally (twice).

Ali

so am i right in saying that the newest dil se dvd, although it does not have any dei logos, is done by dei?

if so, is there any difference between the two prints?

has anyone compared the two?


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so am i right in saying that the newest dil se dvd, although it does not have any dei logos, is done by dei?

if so, is there any difference between the two prints?

has anyone compared the two?

No! if it doesn’t have the DEI logo it's most likely not done by DEI. Eros probably had it 're-mastered' i.e. reprocessed the DEI mastered DVD and made it worse! Eros did this because of their dispute with DEI – as I understood it, Eros couldn’t use the DEI menus – so they had them redone – by doing so ruined the video that DEI did in the procedure – hence the DVDs Eros re-released under the Eros/B4U label nearly always had inferior picture.

The two DEI versions of Dil Se I refer to are the original ones released under DEI/Eros label; it was released a second time labelled ‘Platinum Edition’ – I think the end credits were missing on the first version and picture is alleged to be better on the Platinum.

Having said that – ones without any DEI logos on might well still turn out to be a DEI mastered DVD – only that they have mixed up the packaging or done some dodgy replication business. I’ve had few different DVDs on the Eros label alone (or Eros/B4U) that have turned out to be DEI mastered DVDs. One of them, Deewaar, has the Eros/B4U logos on the cover and disc –if you play it, you find it’s the original that was mastered by DEI. It’s just pot luck which you get.

If it still can be sourced the Dil Se Platinum Edition on Eros/DEI label is the one to have.

Ali :baaa:


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I gave it a 6.125 sometime long ago, but I was being too nice! If I could, I would give it a 2!

Manisha, Preity, the cinematographhy, and AR Rahman's music were the good points of the film. SRK's role was a huge disappointment to me.


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ali, you say that eros couldn't use dei menus so they redid the menus, and that you have eros disks which are in fact dei disks. how did you know that your eros discs are really dei disks if the menus were redone? (or did eros mess up and keep the menu and just change the packaging?)

and i know the 5.1 sound in dil se is highly praised by a number of people here - are you guys praising the dei/eros version, or the eros version?


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it's a great film...it's been 5 to 6 years already and we still can't stop talking about it.


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theon wrote:
ali, you say that eros couldn't use dei menus so they redid the menus, and that you have eros disks which are in fact dei disks. how did you know that your eros discs are really dei disks if the menus were redone? (or did eros mess up and keep the menu and just change the packaging?)


The titles that were re-mastered on Eros/B4U label had their menus redone. The Deewaar disc I've got is the same, content wise (menus, video, sound), as the Eros/DEI DVD I've got – the cover and disc has Eros/B4U logos - work it out :;):

Check this thread for info on Deewaar;

http://www.zulm.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=398

Ali :baaa:


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I thought Dil Se was a very good film, but not a perfect one.
Indian movies have way too many 'then they both walked off into the sunset' type of endings. It takes balls to pull off an ending like Mani Rathnam did in that movie. :thumbs:


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watched my eros dvd yesterday. if i had any doubts that it was an "eros international presentation" i was reminded of that fact with five minutes of unskippable commercials before i watched it, the eros logo showing up in the bottom left-hand corner of my screen every five-ten minutes during the feature, and some wierd phenomenon happening on the black letterbox bars.

what's with the opening credits on this dvd? they seem cut.


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