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hutbay wrote:
its on those list because its the only movie which got the chance to go international with oscar nomination from India and the exposure it got in film festivals especially Cannes. There should be far better movies made in INdia than Devdas, they should look into regional films.

What was that Bengali film that was critically acclaimed this year? Saanjbhatir Rooptakara? Sorry if I mangled the title.


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its on those list because its the only movie which got the chance to go international with oscar nomination from India and the exposure it got in film festivals especially Cannes. There should be far better movies made in INdia than Devdas, they should look into regional films.

Well if you compare regional films to a bollywood flick, than i'm sure that no bollywood film is ever even half as good as some of the best regional films out there. Though leaving that issue aside, I think one of the main reasons why regional films don't get the type of exposure bollywood films have is because the lack of capital regional filmmakers have to promote there films at an international scale, though if regional films are immensely great, they sometimes make it to great heights on there own merits, and I think that's how Ray's films got noticed.

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Kabir wrote:
However, you can't really call this list a list of Top Ten Movies of 2002, because two of the films there are actually documentaries/short-films, in particular 'Bowling for Columbine' and 'Russian Ark' which has been getting coverage on PBS. They are not motion pictures in the traditional sense. By that standard, the list is senseless.


I would disagree with that. Both BOWLING and RUSSIAN ARK are indeed feature films that deserve to be on any ten best list. BOWLING tops my ten best of the year. And ARK is feature length and not a short film.

It isn't unusual for critics to have documentaries on their list, Roger Ebert does it all the time.


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Hey, how come Richard Corliss puts DEVDAS as his #4 movie of 2002 on one list and then at #1 on another list? ??? Strange.

http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazin ... story.html


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Simple, Richard Corliss is an ass.

He made two separate lists for the US and Europe. The European one has 'Devdas' at No. 1. The very fact that 'Gangs of New York' even made the list is confirmation that the man needs to be lobotomized.


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its on those list because its the only movie which got the chance to go international with oscar nomination from India and the exposure it got in film festivals especially Cannes. There should be far better movies made in INdia than Devdas, they should look into regional films.

What was that Bengali film that was critically acclaimed this year? Saanjbhatir Rooptakara? Sorry if I mangled the title.

Yeah ... Saanjbatir Roopkatra to be exact..

There is another film made my Aparna Sen, Mr & Mrs Iyer.. which won accolades at the Hawaain film festival...

Either of these films would have been nominated ... Devdas... no chance and no way..and it will be an insult if Devdas actually gets nominated :angry:


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... Devdas... no chance and no way..and it will be an insult if Devdas actually gets nominated :angry:

How so?

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DVD Collector... i think we have discussed abt this topic aplenty.. It is technically a very poor film... It doesnt reflect the actual scenario presented by Sarat Chandra Chattopadhay in his novel. (Read the post by Bhaskar where he makes a comparison with a bengali version of Devdas and this present version)..

Added to that, if Eros shows the committee their DVD... I shudder to think what may happen :D


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DVD Collector... i think we have discussed abt this topic aplenty.. It is technically a very poor film... It doesnt reflect the actual scenario presented by Sarat Chandra Chattopadhay in his novel. (Read the post by Bhaskar where he makes a comparison with a bengali version of Devdas and this present version)

Really!? and what part of the term "adaptation" did you not understand?

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sknath wrote:
DVD Collector... i think we have discussed abt this topic aplenty.. It is technically a very poor film... It doesnt reflect the actual scenario presented by Sarat Chandra Chattopadhay in his novel. (Read the post by Bhaskar where he makes a comparison with a bengali version of Devdas and this present version)

Really!? and what part of the term "adaptation" did you not understand?

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Huh ! Adaptation ? I thought the starting credits contained the name "Sarat Chandra Chattopadhay"... If u mean adding a Dance number with Paro & Chandramukhi is tantamount to adaptation then heaven help us :D

BTW.. I am in no way biased against this movie... Only the value of this movie has diminished in my eyes cos of that lousy DVd which EROS released a couple of months back


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Huh ! Adaptation ? I thought the starting credits contained the name "Sarat Chandra Chattopadhay"... If u mean adding a Dance number with Paro & Chandramukhi is tantamount to adaptation then heaven help us :D

BTW.. I am in no way biased against this movie... Only the value of this movie has diminished in my eyes cos of that lousy DVd which EROS released a couple of months back

If anything is an insult, its the Eros DVD of Bhansali's Devdas.

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Devdas to me seemed like an excuse for SLB to go wild with the opulent sets and costumes. How many times can we see Paro running down endless corridors with her jewelry jingling and jangling? Also, the sets were extravagant, but not in a particular way. Devdas's house, Paro's new house, and the kotha (is that the right word here, I am not sure) were all opulent in pretty much the same style. Not that I expected the same style as the minimalist Bimal Roy version, but Roy's film conveyed the perfect mood for the story IMO. I don't expect a film to be 100% faithful to the source. In fact, changes are often necessary to make a good film adaptation. The story itself to me is a little distancing, but SLB's direction sure didn't help me like it more.

Sknath and Bhaskar, what did you guys think every time someone used some Bengali word like shondesh or bondhu? :)


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Well bandhu is a proper hindi word ... However in Bangla you pronounce that as a Bondhu... The folks in the movie (all Hindi speaking geekos) got that part all wrong... Its not Shondesh.. but Sawndes (a proper pronounciation for that)...

It was very irritating infact.. Priti Khare (Devdas's Bhabi) being one of them


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Devdas to me seemed like an excuse for SLB to go wild with the opulent sets and costumes. How many times can we see Paro running down endless corridors with her jewelry jingling and jangling? Also, the sets were extravagant, but not in a particular way. Devdas's house, Paro's new house, and the kotha (is that the right word here, I am not sure) were all opulent in pretty much the same style. Not that I expected the same style as the minimalist Bimal Roy version, but Roy's film conveyed the perfect mood for the story IMO. I don't expect a film to be 100% faithful to the source. In fact, changes are often necessary to make a good film adaptation. The story itself to me is a little distancing, but SLB's direction sure didn't help me like it more.

I couldn't agree more with you about Bhansali's bit inferior direction. But I didn't think at all that it was a crime for Bhansali to make visually astonishing film. We hardly get films like that in Bollywood.

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[quote]Simple, Richard Corliss is an ass.

He made two separate lists for the US and Europe. The European one has 'Devdas' at No. 1. The very fact that 'Gangs of New York' even made the list is confirmation that the man needs to be lobotomized.[quote]


The reason for that gangs of New York isnt at that european list. is that the movie hasnt been released in europe yet, atleast not where i live in europe!




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