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RNJBOND
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Shahran Sunny Audit wrote:
How was Kanathil Muthamittal placed with the other list of films as it was released the same year as Laggan? Wouldn't that have been dissmissed by the Oscar's????

I personally would have loved to have seen Mani Ratnam's film be nominated, it really is an Indian film to be proud off.

I personally didn't like the film Road and found it a 2 hour bore of MTV stylized images and a lack of a decent screenplay. Also Manoj Bajpai is fast becoming type casted in similar (preditable) roles, even though he tries hard to put something new into them. Please directors use him to his fullest extent, he is a great actor on the scale of what Bachchan was in his prime...

Maybe Ratnam should collaborate with him for his next film :)

I'm pretty sure Kannathil Muthamital was released in 2002 (early 2002) or maybe even late 2001. That constitutes it for this year's film.
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0312859

And, yes, Kannathil Muthamital would ahve been an awesome choice for the Oscars because it's such a touching and well-made film. However, it seems no one in America understands the Sri Lankan conflict which would give it a disadvantage.

Honestly, LOBS would have had the most appeal. It was a very hard-hitting film that covered broad topics. It used the story of this hero to move over many themes. Additionally, based on my experiences, it went down well with non-Indians. One of my friends liked it so much that he went out and bought it. Most of them remember the phrase "Inquilab Zindabad" so vividly. It's a very memorable film.

I would have been satisfied with either choice.
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I personally enjoyed Devdas, but I agree that I don't see it as being Oscar material. (Not to get me wrong...I'm still hoping it does well there.) If anything though, it should be considered for categories like Costuming, Music, Sets, Cinematography, etc. Yes, it was a glitz and glamour movie, but so was Moulin Rouge, and many people enjoyed that movie for it's in-your-face color and sound. Plus, Devdas seems like a more stylized version with grace rather than bawdiness.

I was reading the article Arsh posted though, and I'm wondering how come so few movies are sent to this committee that decides what is sent? I mean, how come movies like Agantuk, Unnishe April, and Vaanaprastham remain solely known in India (and mostly in their own regions). Perhaps, this committee should try to more actively recruit films that do well at the National level in order to get quality products to nominate. Although, I don't think looking at the Filmfare Awards will do that because frankly that just seems like a popularity contest. However, the National Awards seem to have a better eye on films, especially the regional ones.
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DVD GIRL wrote:
hi how did u know devdas will be entered in the oscars? any news where u found this out? :thumbs: :D :) :;):

Maybe from the million different links posted in this topic?
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RNJBOND wrote:
And, yes, Kannathil Muthamital would ahve been an awesome choice for the Oscars because it's such a touching and well-made film. However, it seems no one in America understands the Sri Lankan conflict which would give it a disadvantage.

Hmmm, I don't know about that. Pardon my ignorance :baaa: but I don't know a huge amount about the Sri Lankan conflict, and I still thought the film was very good, as the Sri Lankan conflict was merely the background for the film, with the main storyline concentrating on Amudha's search for her parents.
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Something I've just seen on Rediff - thought it was quite amusing...........

http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/oct/29mess.htm
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I don't know...I think Devdas is a good choice for the Oscars.
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bhaskar wrote:
RNJBOND wrote:
And, yes, Kannathil Muthamital would ahve been an awesome choice for the Oscars because it's such a touching and well-made film. However, it seems no one in America understands the Sri Lankan conflict which would give it a disadvantage.

Hmmm, I don't know about that. Pardon my ignorance :baaa: but I don't know a huge amount about the Sri Lankan conflict, and I still thought the film was very good, as the Sri Lankan conflict was merely the background for the film, with the main storyline concentrating on Amudha's search for her parents.

Perhaps it's just me then...
When I first saw the movie, I really liked it, but I didn't quite understand it well enough. After learning about the conflict, it made a lot more sense to me and I liked the movie even more. I think that an American audience, without proper knowledge, would have a slight problem understanding the point of the movie or the statements it's making.
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Please people. DEVDAS is an excellent choice when compared to embarrassing submissions such as JEANS and HEY RAM. Even if you don't agree that is a viable selection for the best foreign film award, at least give it credit for the costumes, sets and music (which surpass those of any film this year, Holly or Bollywood).
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kamran wrote:
Please people. DEVDAS is an excellent choice when compared to embarrassing submissions such as JEANS and HEY RAM.

Ok, Jeans, I agree, but how on earth was Hey Ram embarrassing?
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I think, ANTI GANDHI sentiments in HEY RAM and later in LOBS!! might be the reason? :baaa: ???
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arsh wrote:
I think, ANTI GANDHI sentiments in HEY RAM and later in LOBS!! might be the reason? :baaa: ???

You're right yaar. That was one of the only reasons I thought LOBS would not be appreciated well. Gandhiji is one of those people the west puts on a pedestal, and they would never dare to hear a word against him. The Academy is very biased.

And Kannathil Muthamital? In today's world of political correctness, you swear the Academy would want to admit to something like that. And besides, they gave No Man's Land the nod last year... why would they give it again to a similar type of film?
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FFI's damn retarded to think Bhansali's Devdas is better than Kannathil Muthamital. Or Company! Who gives a crap if no one submitted Company for the nod. Someone on the jury shoulda added it to the running himself/herself. Problem is RGV is too much of a modest b***** to enter his flick in the running.

If Bhansali's Khamoshi was submitted in '96, I woulda been happy. But Devdas??? It's like the worst and best of Indian cinema mixed into one product. ECH!

Heck, I can't stop laughing watching the retarded "Devaa... Are O Devaaa..." OVERACTING shit at the beginning of the movie... how's the average American gonna react?
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gottaluvit wrote:
Heck, I can't stop laughing watching the retarded "Devaa... Are O Devaaa..." OVERACTING shit at the beginning of the movie... how's the average American gonna react?


Yes, very true. I cringe when I see the scene too, but it didn't bother the critics here (Toronto, where it opened wide). They wrote about how Bollywood comes with loud emotions and acting. For them, it's part of the whole Indian film experience. Some of them really enjoyed Kiron Kher's performance.
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What Devdas is up against from other countries;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainmen ... 378185.stm

Lilya 4-Ever (Sweden)
Cidade de Deus - City of God (Brazil)
Edi (Poland)
Mon-Rak Transistor (Thailand)
Hero (China)
Devdas (India)

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gottaluvit wrote:
Heck, I can't stop laughing watching the retarded "Devaa... Are O Devaaa..." OVERACTING shit at the beginning of the movie... how's the average American gonna react?

I agree with you - and I remember some of the British reviews saying Devdas is a great Bollywood melodrama........

I get the feeling Devdas is going to pull everything back for the Indian film industry. What I mean is that films like Lagaan, Mission Kashmir, and Monsoon Wedding were almost an introduction of Hindi films to the Westerners. Sure, films like DDLJ and K3G have also done well, but from what I've heard it was mainly Indian people who watched these movies again and again. MK, Lagaan, and MW were appreciated by a lot of westerners as well, and I think people began to think that they could take the Indina film industry seriosuly. What happens now? They see Devdas, and go back to the same old overacting and breaking into a song and dance at every given opportunity - I feel they're gonna start taking the piss out of Bollywood once again.

Just my opinion.......... :angry:
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