LOL... predetors mum.. i like that reply!!

anyway ive got a public server set up.. cos i cant really be arsed uploading it to everyone.. u can get it
here

Faddy Yaar thank you very very much for those excellent songs. Have not heard them in their entirety but from what I have heard truley sound amazing! Once again thanks!

where can i get this music from as the link provided by faddy doesnt work!!

Didn't Asha Bhonsle sing for the movie Sangam/Sargam (the one with Adnan Sami and Zeba Bakhtiar)?

As for Pakistani soundtracks, I really do think some of them should get more coverage. Some of the movies aren't too bad either - Nikaah and Choorian were very good movies, even though Nikaah was a rip off of Kaash.

Pakistani soundtracks I'm looking for in tape or CD format: - Jeeva, Mushkil and Choorian - anyone know if I can get these anywhere on the Net? Have these even been released in UK? I know I'll be able to get the Choorian soundtrack, but no-one seems to have the other two - can anyone help?!??!?!

One last thing - which album is the song Dosti by Junoon from?

Trust our friend Faddy & Co. to do that

I wonder if that film will ever be released on the lines of a Bollywood flick here in da west (if it does it itself is a great achievement cos I dont think it can attract an audience (no matter how good the songs are) like a film say DEVDAS)

A Pakistani movie, Mehndi Waley Haath, did get the same sort of release as a Bollywood film here in Birmingham (not sure about the rest of the UK).

As for Faddy giving it more coverage, he should. In fact i'll join him if the product is good!!

Bhaskar never heard of that film (at least here in Canada)

As for joining Faddy you should he is indeed doing a noble deed

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there??!???!?

Mehndi Wale Haath was an excellent movie and did get a lot of coverage within the UK.. it showed at a number of cinemas and was house full for every show.. Some pakistani movies have excellent storylines, whereas some are total trash!! AS for the songs to choorian, jeeva and mehndi wale haath, these movies were missed by majority of the people mainly due to the fact that the quality of the movie release was soo bad, that it was hardly worth watching.. only if such movies were marketed and released on the same scale as bollywood movies, these movies would have definately made it big in the west.. hopefully Yeh Dil Aapka Hua, as Javaid Sheikh has his head screwed on and is marketing the product left right and centre on television here within the UK and it will definately pay of for the guy.. i hope it does anyway!!

bash - That link has now gone.. drop me an email i`ll try and drop the CD of for u!!

Bhaskar nope there wasnt any sarcasm anyways. When a person like Faddy can say the above statements I can imagine what others like me (read ONLY Bollywood & other Indian film fans have to say).

Its just that you need to market it. The first problem is who is gonna watch a Pakistani film (when most of us dont even know the names of their film stars etc.).. Which brings me to another point here.

True or False :- I dunno how the ads are shaping up on Uk TVs but has there been any instance where they are showing the Kumar Sanu songs ? what does this show ? You need something more than just a PAKISTANI element to market your film when you have a to gain an audience. ?

As for your efforts in promoting it , it is indeed good that you promote it; but the bottom line is who is gonna even pay attention when it is a Non-Bollywood film ?

Cash wise also it cant match up to the publicty received by Bollywood flicks, and you forget one more thing, whereas Bollywood & other Indian flims have gained prominence due to the fact that folks here and elsewhere in the world know abt them (that includes even Pakistan.. lil wonder even in PTV you have Hindi flim clippings shown). But tell me how many Indians know abt Pakistani 'stars' ? or for that matter Germans, Koreans, Japanese etc . ?

SKnath - what point are you trying to make... i dont particularly understand your perception of pakistan and its movies..!! I think it is clear from your posts that you are nothing but a racist bigot out to piss all over everything pakistani.. It does not irritate me but i actuall find it funny how you go out of your way to prove about a point that Pakistanis are a bunch of idiots.. its sad to think a thread which actually started of trying to dicuss a normal topic ends up with you bringing up stupid elements of your twisted racist mind!!

Anyway thats enuff waffling on.. as for using Kumar Sanu to market the movie.. lemme think hasnt Bollywood used all the good thinks pakistani to promote the movie.. Lemme think:

NFAK for Kartoos, Aur Pyaar Hogaya and even Kacche Dhaage
Nazia Hassan for Star and Disco Deewane
Khawaja Parvez and Baba Bule Shah for Shaheed
Kamal Khan (who is pakistani) in Pyar Kiya to Darna Kya
The list is endless if u want me to go on i surely can

Not only that there have been many major bollywood flicks that have been copied of numerous pakistani flicks including biggest bollywood hits such as DDLJ... believe it or not matey it is...!! But really it doesnt matter.... its people like you that make a mountain out of a mole hill and criticise anybodys work just for being paki... Mature ureself more and get out about and actually see that there is more to life than criticism...

Faddy we know what we are and I didnt in any way "diss" your film but what I said is the truth... (whether you like it or not). I never denied the presence of Pakistani singers in Bollywood films but come on using that to market a film its ridiculous
Your example of using NFAK to market Aur Pyar Ho Gaya .... It was a mega Flop (goes to show he wasnt made for it )

.. Infact I think SAMEER & ANU MALIK are wankas when they try to ape (nope plagiarize Pakistani tunes... when you have perfect Indian tunes and lyricists why bother abt the rest... the most glaring example being Nusrat Badr from DEVDAS )

One more thing, do let us all know how ur film fared (cos I am sure most of us wont even care abt it )

On a side note..why have you left out from your list Adnan Sami Khan ? ( yeah I do like his music but he has more to do to catch up if he wants to be a credible alternative in Bollywood ).. or is there some other reasons for omitting him out of the list

As for Kamaal Khan, we all know he is a 1 film wonder .. so also with Nazia Hasan ( Qurbani )... You can count a few others but that was nothing compared to what Qurbani did. Pray tell me what happened after that ? If they were "what they started out to be" why did they fizz out ? Dont tell me they didnt get patronage in Bollywood ? Salma Agha fizzled out after Nikaah ... (In kasam paida karne wale ki she looked liek Mithun's mom ) ..

But the most important point in all the cases you have cited is that Pakistani singers / actors/actresses come to Bollywood (for obvious reasons ! ) .. Pray tell me why not the other way around ? Isnt the reason obvious ?

Arsh mentioned in a previous thread that he would be visiting NAZ theatre in California to watch DEVDAS... As far as my knowledge goes NAZ is owned by Pakistani-Americans and yet they are screening Bollywood flicks (cos they know thats where the profit lies ).. I would surely like to know if the film you are talking abt, is released in NAZ theatre and also if it gets an opening as similar to that of DEVDAS ( something like house full shows as you have mentioned ).
I will publicly eat my words here if I am proved wrong

One more thing Faddy... how many ppl in India will actually know about this Pakistani film ? And you still havent answered the question while posting your reply .. How many ppl outside Pakistan know abt Pakistani films ? ( Europeans for ex.).. How many indians (outside India) know abt Pakistani films ? Well if stating this makes you feel i am a racist then I am truely amazed at ur sense and sensibility !
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As a footnote :-
Faddy you are one of the few folks here whos posts actually make me laff , when u write objectively, but u are really off mark when u enter ur obscenities and profanities. So if calling me names etc makes u feel cool then please be my guest... I would surely like u to come back to your regular style of OBJECTIVE criticisms rather than PATRIOTIC sentiments
Cheerz
(& do enjoy DEVDAS )

an outstanding reply sk.. but tell u the truth, i seriously cannot be bothered replying to ure post.. i honestly cannot be arsed wasting my effort trying to prove a point against a lowlife phd student like ureself!!

[quote="sknath"][/quote]
I never denied the presence of Pakistani singers in Bollywood films but come on using that to market a film its ridiculous
Your example of using NFAK to market Aur Pyar Ho Gaya .... It was a mega Flop (goes to show he wasnt made for it )

The music of APHG did quite well as far as I can remember, and people were asking for the music months before it was released here in Birmingham, just cos it was by NFAK. AS for the film, it was quite crap, and you can't really blame that on the music director.

One more thing, do let us all know how ur film fared (cos I am sure most of us wont even care abt it )

I really do think you should stop talking for 'most of us'. I'm sure fellow Zulmis can speak and give their views if they want to. And if you don't care about the film, why do you keep on asking Faddy to let you know how it does?

Arsh mentioned in a previous thread that he would be visiting NAZ theatre in California to watch DEVDAS... As far as my knowledge goes NAZ is owned by Pakistani-Americans and yet they are screening Bollywood flicks (cos they know thats where the profit lies )..

What differenc edoes it make if the theatre is owned by Pakistanis or Indians? If Pakistani films were released in the same way as Bollywood flick, I'm sure Indian theatre owners would also show Pakistani films. Here we have Warner Village cinemas showing the Bollywood films - only cos they make money, its not for the love of Bollywood.

I would surely like to know if the film you are talking abt, is released in NAZ theatre and also if it gets an opening as similar to that of DEVDAS ( something like house full shows as you have mentioned ).

How many films will get an opening similar to that expected from Devdas? Most Hindi films this year have had a dismal opening.


One more thing Faddy... how many ppl in India will actually know about this Pakistani film ? And you still havent answered the question while posting your reply .. How many ppl outside Pakistan know abt Pakistani films ? ( Europeans for ex.).. How many indians (outside India) know abt Pakistani films ?

Sure, most probably not a lot of people don't know about this film, and they probably won't. But this thread started off with Faddy talking about the soundtrack. He hasn't claimed in the entire thread that the film will be a huge superhit on the lines of K3G, and he hasn't forced people to care about this film. He wrote about a soundtrack that he liked, and asked for other people's opinions, and it turned into this. All from someone who doesn't care about the film :doze:

Bhaskar read the thread .. somewhere Faddy did mention that he hoped that it would pay off the director... what does this imply ? Is he referring to "JUST" the music as you have put it or you think that we are so naive ( we as in I)...

Now lets talk abt the music itself... You are in the UK ... so u must have access to all the Indian Channels... tell me how many Indian channels are airing the promos for this film ? (Just the songs..) How many songs has appeared in the Top 10 ratings ( it should have as it has singers like Kumar Sanu etc...) ... How many promo campaigns for this film "like interview with the stars etc. ?" ...anything at all ? Faddy did mention that this was getting lots of coverage in Desi channels ( For me a desi channel (read Indian channel) is Zee, STAR, Sony, B4U ... not anything else though there may be many)...
Even for some lousy Bollywood films ppl here on zulm post abt promos from channels like B4U, Zee TV, etc (even BBC sometimes).... mostly based on the music...
So what does this imply ?

As for others not posting on this . I can forsee 2 reasons :-
1.) They dont care abt this
2.) They do care but as faddy said "cannot bother to be arsed abt it"...
Whatever it is, unless someone (like u) explictly states it we may never know

As for your statement :-
"...If Pakistani films were released in the same way as Bollywood flick, I'm sure Indian theatre owners would also show Pakistani films. "

(Very much doubt it though... not for the fact that they wont show it but if such a film can ever be released on such a scale... and secondly you have pointed out urself noone knows anything abt Pakistani films or film stars but a rank few... and Money is the deciding factor here (so whether the film has good music or anything it really doesnt count much).. other wise Crap films like YADDEIN also are called super Hits.. Its HRITHIK Roshan's name that sells ) ...

& Let me emphatically state here directed towards Faddy :- No hard feelings vis-a-vis you



Edited By sknath on June 29 2002 at 09:27