Rana,

I don’t buy the argument about decoder/processor or line doublers can make a bad quality disk to a look good.
I am using the Scientific Atlantic HD3000 High Definition box for the cable viewing. Of course all the HD channels looks fantastic but even the digital channel movies also look good on the big screen, probably they are line doubled and being from a good source they look good, but when comparing the image with that of Indian dvd’s barring DEI is like comparing



- from Iscan Pro Specs.

Practically, it can’t magically bring life to the picture that was not there at the source.



Edited By ganti on July 03 2002 at 13:02

Ganti you missed the whole arguement I made.

If there is such a system which can convert an interlaced system to a progressive source and then check if the progressive source meets some criteria (quality of cos..which are purely statistical in nature) then it may/may not process that "progressive image frame" further by such algorithms as edge enhancement, deblurring, and some various kinds of non linear filtering techniques such that the picture you eventually see on your TV is actually a reprocessed picture !

Now thats what I meant that if such a system exists then I would be interested in such a system as thats my research work (and hopefully will be the source for my bread and butter! )

Sknath,
I know what you are saying. The text of my message was not referencing to you. Sorry for that




Edited By ganti on July 03 2002 at 13:13

Some points
- Your friend probably has not seen any good Indian DVDs
so far. If he really thinks Company looks better than
any DEI DVD his image quality criteria are very weird,
to put it mildly.
- There is no direct connection between the cost of your
equipment and your ability to judge image quality in an
objective way. While the equipment may show you the source
as it is or even improve it to some extent it does not
tell you how to judge it. It's up to you to educate
yourself about aspects of image quality such as
- compression quality and compression artifacts
- edge enhancement
- noise reduction
- color and contrast rendition
- noise, motion artifacts
- image sharpness
Many problems are not apparent to the casual viewer that
never seriously thought about it all and acquired an eye
for judging image quality aspects and experience over
the years as to what the upper limits of quality are for
DVD and other media.
- Even the best hardware can not turn a shitty DVD in a
good one. Good hardware is first of all neutral. It does
not add artifacts of its own. It shows you the source as
it is, with all the artifacts it has. If you want to go
beyond that there is hardware that can improve the source
but it comes at a price. You no longer see the source
as it is and you will get more or less new artifacts due
to the improvement. Ideally very little while old
artifacts are mostly gone.

Summary. No matter what hardware your friend uses the DVD
of "Company" will never look like a state of the art
DVD. If he says otherwise he does not know what image
quality is about.
MH

Company has many problems with the DVD, and the better the system the worse the image quality gets as top of line hardware equipment nooks out every detail on the DVD to ensure optimum quality. Tell your mate to watch DEI's Jung, or KNPH (CE) these are Indian DVD's yet to be beaten in terms of quality.

Another fact and embarrassment that I face is, that often people claim: -

“I have THE BEST QUALITY Indian DVDs; we buy only the originals direct from EROS; DVDs available in UK are of higher quality than in North America; etc.”

When some one believes that their collection is the best quality and you counter that or even refer to zulm, they laugh at you, ignore you and/ or just get upset.

In other words, because of ignorance and because of comparing DVD quality with the previously available Indian VHS, most of the people think DVDs of COMPANY quality to be bliss.

As majority of the customers (add DVD renting shops who, irrespective of the quality, just want multi-copies of latest releases as early as yesterday) think of COMPANY quality DVD as fantastic, zulmis have had little impact to improve the quality of Indian DVDs.

Rana

P.S.
Believe me, when HD-VHS and HD-DVDs become available, majority of them (Indian) will be transferred from VHS quality sources and still majority will be proud of them and think of them as real High Def.

WOW

I have no choice but to pronounce Warner Brother’s edition of Training Day, presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen, “reference quality.” - review by DVD shrine

Last night I watched this movie and I could not believe my eyes for the gorgeous picture. Near HD quality transfer.