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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:17 pm 
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There still seems to some confusion to what is meant by disc replication. The basic DVD creation is a two fold process; development of a master and then the mass replication of that master. This two fold process applies to videotape, laserdisc and CDROM – DVD-Video is no different.

The development of the DVD-Video master can be done by individuals or small companies’ ala DEI. Once you have a master (irrelevant of what type of media it is on i.e. DVD-R disc or digital tape media) you can use it to mass produce the DVD-Video discs that go on sale (same as DVD-ROMS and CDs). This replication process is handed over to a disc manufacturing plant where mass copies are made that are exactly the same as the master quality. Normally (i.e. non-Indian DVDs) at this process go through additional processes to add copy protection to the replicated discs (so that these copies cannot be used to make further mass copies). These are the discs you and me buy as originals.

Because there’s no copy protection on Indian DVDs, pirates can take any one of these originals and use it as the master to further mass replicate for sale. Technically there is no loss of quality between this and the originals.

rana wrote:
If that is the case, what stops illegal replications of DVDs sold at give away prices and also, why would any one pay an arm and a leg to buy DVD rights, spend money to author it and then see it being replicated illegally?? I just wonder. As far as law is concerned, we all know, it is toothless.


Again the term ‘illegal’ as with ‘piracy’ is definable depending on who is using it! Replication on mass scale is taking place because it’s more economical to do so. Replicating discs at wholesale make the costs of each disc roughly $4-$5 USD – this is the same that costs people like DEI and YRF – but they have to price their DVDs up for profit, development, distribution and marketing (not to mention greed as is the case with YRF). While pirates don’t have these costs they can sell much cheaper. So there is nothing stopping them – laws that protect Hollywood films and DVDs don’t necessarily protected Indian films and DVDs – pirates know this and exploit this.

Rana as you say why would anyone pay arm and leg to acquire DVD rights and author the DVD – very true – this is exactly what DEI did/do. They went down the proper route – got DVD rights, properly mastered the DVDs (well to some extent anyway :p ) yet they still failed to protect their DVDs.

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Is replication by wholesalers the reason which prompted DEI to respond (mentioned somewhere in forums as DEI's e-mail response) that they have no control over which DVD media (gold/ silver) is used for their DVDs??


No that was just bullshit talk – they have always had the choice of who replicates their discs – they’ve done in the past and they could easily still do it. They started using cheaper media to cuts costs – simple as that.

ganti wrote:
I have the same question as Rana has. So I can copy a dvd by using a dvd RW drive with out degrading video and audio!


In word no! There is a distinction to me made between DVD-R copies you make yourself and replicated discs. Most DVDs now come on dual layered disc (~8GB capacity) and at the moment DVD-R media is only single layered (~4GB capacity). So as skanth as stated you can rip and down sample the dual layered disc to fit a singled layered disc – but it's not the same quality.

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This was a case when my friend purchased a copy of Har Dil Jo Pyar karega (EROS) and it had an aspect ratio of 720 x 480 on his TV screen but as it was widescreen anamorphic it should have been 850 x 480. This implies that the DVD which he had purchased was a pirated DVD ( replicated and not properly re-encoded).


I’m gob-smacked by that statement, especially coming from a seasoned regular here. 720x480 is a video resolution and nothing to do with the aspect ratio. On DVD, video is always at either 720x480 resolution for NTSC or 720x576 resolution for PAL. This resolution does not determine the aspect ratio of the video is meant to be displayed - and there is certainly no resolution such as 850 x 480. Anamorphic DVDs are always displayed in a 16x9 (1.78:1) frame, while non-anamorphic ones are always displayed in a 4:3 (1.33:1) frame. Movies vary in width and are formatted to fit these resolutions (either at NTSC 720x480 or PAL 720x576). I could go on.. but cant be arsed :oh:

Ali :sleep:



Edited By ali on June 11 2002 at 17:22


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Ali thanks for the insinuation..here is a small task for ya.. Take the K3G DVD and rip the Bole Choodiyan song...

Then burn it on a Cd and play it on ur DVD player.. you will see how it looks like

Then play the same Cd on ur DVD rom drive and you will see what I mean !... The anamorphic flags are not set ( and hence the so called improper re-encoding phenomenan )...

For more info on what I am talking abt.. take a look at this link

http://www.doom9.org/aspectratios.htm


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I AM ALSO NOT SATISFIED!!! WITH THE SCREENSHOTS THAT IS SKNATH - I THINK U KNOW WHAT PIC I WANNA SEE.

CHARAYDE DE PIC ON ZULM SKNATH!!!!


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