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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:14 pm 
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Yes it is a progressive print...well, I will try it again.

Right now, doing some work on DTPH...dil to pagal hai


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:26 pm 
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FarooqBhai wrote:
Yes it is a progressive print...well, I will try it again.

Right now, doing some work on DTPH...dil to pagal hai


Thanks! BTW DTPH was prog/anamorphic remaster so did KKHH! But these films can only benefit if there are dvd 9 remastered, reducing bit rate will defeat the purpose imho. But these might not be quick fixes and would definitely take a huge amount of your precious time and dedication that we all lovers of some of these beautiful films will hugely appreciate! and now newdeep has a paid job for you too! :)

Problem with these companies is that they know what they are churning out but they work for OUTRAGEOUS HUGE PROFITS over quality, same as film makers. so hiring experts is MUTE for them imho!

MOST VISIONARY BOLLYWOOD DIRECTORS OF NEW AGE AND DATE are FARAH KHAN and SAAJID KHAN!!! :( and most technically and financially advanced corporation are ZEROS, UTV and Shemaroo from India( who insist on cropping every thing) Once crop even FB can not fix it :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:37 pm 
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my DTPH is NOT progressive...i've been trying to so hard to find one.

i have only one version...the same 2-disc cardboard box contained YRF release...it's a simple IVTC, but someone really f*ked up this transfer...seems like they have a WHITE FILM throughout the whole print...it's ugly. i had to take 28% contrast levels out...still fine-tuning it...

PS...he hasnt gotten me any paid job yet...but would love it. Can't wait to hear back from him.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:40 pm 
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FarooqBhai wrote:
my DTPH is NOT progressive...i've been trying to so hard to find one.

i have only one version...the same 2-disc cardboard box contained YRF release...it's a simple IVTC, but someone really f*ked up this transfer...seems like they have a WHITE FILM throughout the whole print...it's ugly. i had to take 28% contrast levels out...still fine-tuning it...

PS...he hasnt gotten me any paid job yet...but would love it. Can't wait to hear back from him.


Hmm! I thought all current DTPH/KKHH copies in circulation were PROG/ANAMORPHIC REMASTERED by SUPER DIGITAL, kindly for us!

check your pm!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:41 pm 
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FarooqBhai wrote:
my DTPH is NOT progressive...i've been trying to so hard to find one.

i have only one version...the same 2-disc cardboard box contained YRF release...it's a simple IVTC, but someone really f*ked up this transfer...seems like they have a WHITE FILM throughout the whole print...it's ugly. i had to take 28% contrast levels out...still fine-tuning it...

PS...he hasnt gotten me any paid job yet...but would love it. Can't wait to hear back from him.


if u could Work with a Good DVD Company we Could Expect the Transfers & the Crisp Quality like the OLD DEI Days :D

Good Luck with ur Ventures FB !!! keep up with the Good work :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:48 pm 
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Zoran009 wrote:

Thanks! BTW DTPH was prog/anamorphic remaster so did KKHH! But these films can only benefit if there are dvd 9 remastered, reducing bit rate will defeat the purpose imho. But these might not be quick fixes and would definitely take a huge amount of your precious time and dedication that we all lovers of some of these beautiful films will hugely appreciate!


totally agreed no point reducing bit rate of a Crappy source :(


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:55 pm 
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KKHH was progressive on my end as well...got lucky :)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:07 pm 
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FarooqBhai wrote:
KKHH was progressive on my end as well...got lucky :)


was it anamorphic? First release was prog, non anamorphic but second was both!

I would recommend not to waste your time on DTPH (suspend it) for the time being till you get the progressive anamorphic version! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:13 am 
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Farooq, I have an offer for you...

Please look up your PM and respond ASAP.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:48 am 
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Zoran009 wrote:
FarooqBhai wrote:
KKHH was progressive on my end as well...got lucky :)


was it anamorphic? First release was prog, non anamorphic but second was both!

I would recommend not to waste your time on DTPH (suspend it) for the time being till you get the progressive anamorphic version! :D


Sorry too late. I still work on crap sources just so I can get some practice time in. I have about 7 hours left on my encode...and sometime in the morning when I wake up, I'll hope the quality is as good as I will hope. Nearing midnight here...I'm off to bed.

@ND...already checked & replied. Thanks.

P.S. If anyone knows of a widescreen/anamorphic or not version of 1942: A Love Story...please do let me know. So far, I have the EROS & DEI versions...but I believe both of them cut off the sides. God I hate that so much. Give me the whole frame please...and I wouldn't care if it's progressive or not nor anamorphic or not. What's the point of watching a movie when you've destroyed the director's vision?!!!

Lastly, I got my hands on a DEI of Roja...but the menu plays at the END of the movie? *lol*


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:06 am 
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i agree.. the theatrical aspect ratio and the theatrical sound mix are the most important in a dvd -- everything else is secondary.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:25 am 
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ok, had a chance to compare the remaster and original in depth.

I have to say that on my setup the difference is not too noticeable unless you are really looking for it. That said, the remaster is definitely better, the progressive nature itself makes sure of that, but I guess theres only so much improvement you can make to a faulty source dvd. Of course, I imagine the results could be better improved if you had the actual source elements?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:33 pm 
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nitin77 wrote:
ok, had a chance to compare the remaster and original in depth.

I have to say that on my setup the difference is not too noticeable unless you are really looking for it. That said, the remaster is definitely better, the progressive nature itself makes sure of that, but I guess theres only so much improvement you can make to a faulty source dvd. Of course, I imagine the results could be better improved if you had the actual source elements?


i would do anything to remake the DVD9 of OSO from source elements...give me 250GB of OSO material to work on, instead of 7.8GB...whatever i do, i do from whatever is in front of me. also, just imagine this...i have to do it in a hurry (the work) to beat others to the punch. if i had taken more time, i could have fixed other problems found in the OSO DVD9.

for example...with the script that i had used for encoding, dvd9 remastered took nearly 18 hours for basically a 3 hour film. yesterday i was working on just a 2 minute 15 second section of the film...with a newer script with much better output, that little section took nearly 3 hours...well anyway, i'm just rambling...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:43 pm 
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nitin77 wrote:
I have to say that on my setup the difference is not too noticeable unless you are really looking for it.


Could you tell us the components in your setup as a reference point?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:59 pm 
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nitin77 wrote:
ok, had a chance to compare the remaster and original in depth.

I have to say that on my setup the difference is not too noticeable unless you are really looking for it. That said, the remaster is definitely better, the progressive nature itself makes sure of that, but I guess theres only so much improvement you can make to a faulty source dvd. Of course, I imagine the results could be better improved if you had the actual source elements?

it also depends what is source of remaster. some dvds are inherently so bad masters e.g khnh if gone through M/CCE dvd 5 or 9, might not come out as good as krrish or hey baby etc.

It is unfortunate that hindi dvd even occasionally progressive/or pseudo progressive are plagued and compromised some how! In such cases remaster can do only so much.


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