arsh bhaii why are u bieng so harsh...

look at it from an indian dvd standard perspective..

yaar believe me, I am trying to be fair!! thats why agreeing with mhafner's rating of 7/10, that makes it ofcourse better than the most, but not on par of a few!! that I still think are much better than this!

TNBPG glows like JEWELS on my system!! While Lakshya plays DULL!!

I think it is combination of type of orig print processing/filming and sub optimal dvd processing by parsad lab!!

So, even with best intentions, results are less than desired!

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How did u do ur count mhafner!! I counted/counted, recounted, it is 24fps, with no combing in forceweave, meaning PROG TRANSFER!

Details from BBFC site on the UK DVD;

02:57:32:23 | LAKSHYA (TAPE 1)
00:22:26:23 | MAKING OF HRITHIK-DEVA (MAIN AISA KYON HOON) (TAPE 2)
00:02:00:15 | LAKSHYA (TAPE 2)
00:00:51:06 | LAKSHYA (TAPE 2)
00:15:04:09 | DELETED SCENES (TAPE 2)
01:02:04:09 | MAKING OF LAKSHYA (TAPE 2)
00:06:50:02 | LAKSHYA DISC-1 - MENUS (TAPE 3)
00:01:15:07 | LAKSHYA DISC-2 - MENUS (TAPE 3)

...is this the same content as the DVD already out?

Ali

Disc one..main feature

Disc 2..making of film, kinda touching basis with favourite scenes.

making of song Deva/hrithik
trailors
photos etc!!

Nothing spectacular. 4:3 presentation of very low quality.

I step on my Sony 7700. 30 steps for one second.

How do you compare? Hardware details please.
I project on 2.4m screen with what is cosidered the best/most film-like
projection menthod there is (high end CRT projection).
A CRT does soften some artifacts compared to a DLP. But they are still there.
Switching directly between K3G and Lakshya K3G IS DEFINITELY less detailed and
sharp. MK and Lakshya are about the same in this regard. KMG is no challenge due to
its awful motion rendition and aliasing.

Hi,
I'm in contact with Prasad and will tell them exactly what is not yet the way it should be
on the Lakshya DVD.
I need your help testing something. If you have the DVD please check if you see a correct
progressive picture or not. I see one but my video processor does inverse telecine based
on content, not flags. If you have a progressive player or PC that relies on flags check if
you see a progressive picture or not.

Would that force weave pay attention to flags?
As I see it the disc is incorrectly flagged.
What I see when stepping through it with the Sony (which uses the flags for stepping) is
frame 1
field of frame 2
frame 3
field of frame 4
other field of frame 4
---------------
frame 5
field of frame 6

Once cycle covers 4 frames and 5 steps, 6 cycles per second, 24 frames. 30 steps.
...

I always check on powerdvd! all screen shots captured in forceweave!
I didnt see any combing!

and repeatedly counted 24fps.

I used a 5 disc DVD changer, high end, DCDI based!! That absolutely gives GORGEOUS picture even with pseudo prog 30fps, rightly flagged stuff!

My screen is 64 inch HIGH END CRT, via component, calibratyed set!

KMG..I agree, no comparison, it is interlaced and artifacts ridden dvd with pseudo enhanced sharpness via edge enhancemwent..duhhh..that is not a videophile image!! That is GOD image for CROOKS!

MK, K3G , Meenaxi, and ur Lakshya IMHO, are rightly flagged and 24fps transfers!

Meenaxi, has some other kinda artifacts! but has overall, pleasant look to it!! very Vivid!

MK, is very much Film like, with good color and 3D, and does not have frequent Murky look and grain like Lakshya!!

k3G could have been better with some better color fidelity and sharpness..but still, very good looking transfer!

what else I can tell u Mike?

DCDI means Faroudja. It will not use flags that go against line analysis. You willl get
a correct progressive picture like me. I still maintain the flags must be wrong.
When I step a correct disc I have 24 full frames and 24 steps per second.
Can Powerdvd be forced to use the flags? Force Weave will probably ignore the flags
and deinterlace the pulldown correctly. The pulldown is right at normal speed.
I have no explanation for what I see when stepping except incorrect flags since
stepping uses the flags. Can your DVD changer step? Can you define fields or frames
as output. What do you see when stepping?

I see full frames while stepping! no half frames or fields! You can check powerdvd ur self! yaar!!

All these dvds mentioned, Meenaxi, Lakshya, MK, K3G are behaving simillar on powerdvd! Yes!! my changer will step...

I understand Sony players can do, frame or field!!

Further more!! I dont have any further technical expertise to do in detail, technical analysis of dvd authoring!!

I told you what I saw!!

You can consult PARSAD!! How did they author Lakshya Vs Meenaxi!

KMG..is 30FPS, combs on forceweave and does not step FULL FRAMES!

On repeated viewing Michael, I am consistent/adamant on my observation and opinion, MK is way better authored DVD than Lakshya!!

Lakshya is BETTER than a lot other CRAP though!

I wonder where r other PUNDITS!!??? While people and Gurus and Pundits are scarred of firing their personal opinions!

Believe me, I have tried my best to like Lakshya transfer!! just thinking, it might be personal preference matter of kinda transfer! But I have miserably failed! same way! I could not like Ayangran, recent PROG transfers!

huh, u guys have very good knowledge of dvd processing and all those stuffs. man its going above my head . Seeing all this, I am offering you guys a job in my dvd processing company (which i will open it shortly in the future ). So what do u say guys? Arsh?Mike?

thnx for ur kind offer!!I am humbled, but as I commited, I am not a technical person here!! Mike is!! You can use me to judge final product!! Are u gona work with Sony/CT?