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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:56 pm 
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Ah I see! We did get Sharmila one but was shemaroo title I guess.
Which one was touuuu chor main Teri raanii?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:11 am 
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Zoran009 wrote:
Which one was touuuu chor main Teri raanii?

That would be 'Raja Rani' with Rajesh Khanna.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:37 am 
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Zoran009 wrote:
Ah I see! We did get Sharmila one but was shemaroo title I guess.
Which one was touuuu chor main Teri raanii?


Yes, I have Shemaroo Raja Rani starring Rajesh Khanna, Sharmila Tagore. Touuuu chor main Teri raanii song is in this film.

I also have Baba as well as EROS Raja Jaani starring Dharminder & Hema Malini. Recently I looked at EVP Amaanush (yes, my PC finally recognized the Amaanush disc) DVD that's not full Progressive and still the PQ is miles ahead of any non DEI/ BEI DVDs. If we could find EVP version of Raja Jani, as it was available at one time, it'll be a great find.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:58 am 
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rana wrote:
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Wasn't Love In Tokyo (Joy Mukherjee) released by BEI in the last days of BEI ??

Somehow, I think having seen or read discussion about it on zulm ??

(April Fool sure was released by BEI, but as I vaguely recall, Love In Tokyo too was released by BEI ??)


Any recollection if DEI/ BEI ever released Love In Tokyo ??

Current internet search shows YRF, Morerbaer, and one NN brand versions of DVD ??

Charolastra wrote:
rana wrote:
Current internet search shows YRF, Morerbaer, and one NN brand versions of DVD ??

Love in Tokyo was also released by Spark.

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I did pick up Spark LOVE IN TOKYO and it turned out to be a terrible print plus it was rotten in the 2nd layer. Returned and picked up Moserbaer.

Big Surprise! Moserbaer version is excellent. Almost as good as Progressive DEI DVDs. Did not expect this quality from Moserbaer.

It's debatable if it's real Progressive or if it's totally uncut ??

Encoding is 30 fps Progressive but is not one film frame into one video frame (Orig film frames, 24 or 25 fps, have been thoroughly mixed up into 30fps video frames). It's field averaged. Not sure if it got 4% speed up in the process ??
If it got 4% speed up, it's full length. If no 4% speed up, then it's 7-8 min cut.
Film 1976 CC shows 4724 meters, i.e. 172 min, where as, DVD is 163 min.

DVD seems to have been made from a brand new restored film print.
DVD bit rate is pretty high (5.5 mbps). Audio is DD 2 Ch mono @ 384 kbps.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:49 am 
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Wow! I saw some one online posted a few titles never heard of DEI


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:08 am 
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rana wrote:
It's debatable if it's real Progressive or if it's totally uncut ??

Encoding is 30 fps Progressive but is not one film frame into one video frame (Orig film frames, 24 or 25 fps, have been thoroughly mixed up into 30fps video frames). It's field averaged. Not sure if it got 4% speed up in the process ??
Most of the NFDC DVDs released till now have a similar type of encoding. Read my post here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12221&p=103721#p103715

Its really puzzling as to whether this type of encoding is really progressive or not.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:39 pm 
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Zoran009 wrote:
Wow! I saw some one online posted a few titles never heard of DEI


Do you mean, DEI authored DVDs that were not heard of before ?? Are these, or most of them, Progressive ?? Which movies ??

This, "Love In Tokyo" DVD is by Moserbaer.


Charolastra wrote:
rana wrote:
It's debatable if it's real Progressive or if it's totally uncut ??

Encoding is 30 fps Progressive but is not one film frame into one video frame (Orig film frames, 24 or 25 fps, have been thoroughly mixed up into 30fps video frames). It's field averaged. Not sure if it got 4% speed up in the process ??
Most of the NFDC DVDs released till now have a similar type of encoding. Read my post here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12221&p=103721#p103715

Its really puzzling as to whether this type of encoding is really progressive or not.


Most likely, as India is a 50 Hz country, mastering must have been at 25 frames per sec or 50 fields per sec. 25 frames per sec is Progressive encoding, 50 fields per sec is still interlaced but if it's 4% speed up, picture displays, or can be weaved back, like/ to a Progressive frame. Changing this 25 or 50 frames into 30 or 60 can be done

Either by:
Mixing up all the frames (all 30/ 60 frames will be blurry as they contain more than one film frame) and then make 25 frames out of it or 50 fields. This then can be a Progressive or interlaced encoding but the damage was already done in mixing up of film frames.

Or by:
Keeping all frames in tact but repeating every 5th frame. This is how some of EVP Hindi DVDs were encoded.

Or by:
Mixing up all frames at every stage or in one of the stages and then encode Progressive or interlaced. - - - -

It's conceivable to Force weave a video master, resulting in Combing, and then encode it Progressive which will always have that combing picture whether you watch it on Interlaced or Progressive display.

Basically, if you keep track of film frames and don't let the frames mix up, display frames will be original film frames. This does entail repeating of frames, every 4th or every 5th.

If the frames get mixed up while converting from 24 to 25 or from 24 to 30 or from 25 to 30, all video frames will be blurry.

Charolastra wrote:
It's really puzzling as to whether this type of encoding is really progressive or not.


Technically it's Progressive but made from a ruined copy.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:52 pm 
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Excellent searching Lanka71. Update the pastebin list and the first post in this thread too.

Actually, I haven't included any BEi titles in that pastebin list.
Here are few of them :
Aan Milo Sajna
Aayee Milan Ki Bela
April Fool
Baadal
Bhagat Dhanna Jatt
Duniya Meri Jeb Mein
Disco Dancer
Ghar Ghar Ki Kahani
Hawaaein
Himmatwala
Jai Baba Vadhbhag Singh Ji
Hum Se Hai Muqabala
Junglee
Kabhi Haan Kabhi Na
Karamyogi
Kaalia
Keemat
Khatta Meetha
Kismat
Kohra
Khel Khel Mein
Mera Saaya
Nanha Farishta
Narsimha
Parvarish
Palki
Professor
Raja Ko Rani Se Pyar Ho Gya
Rakshak
Raaj Tilak
Sadma
Santaan
Shahenshah
Sohni Mahiwaal
Swamyvar
Vishwas
Yateem
Yeh Ishq Nahin Aasan
Yeh Mohabbat Hai

http://www.desitorrents.com/forums/unto ... ad-389211/


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:00 pm 
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Zoran009 wrote:
Excellent searching Lanka71. Update the pastebin list and the first post in this thread too.

Actually, I haven't included any BEi titles in that pastebin list.
Here are few of them :
Aan Milo Sajna
Aayee Milan Ki Bela
April Fool
Baadal
Bhagat Dhanna Jatt
Duniya Meri Jeb Mein
Disco Dancer
Ghar Ghar Ki Kahani
Hawaaein
Himmatwala
Jai Baba Vadhbhag Singh Ji
Hum Se Hai Muqabala
Junglee
Kabhi Haan Kabhi Na
Karamyogi
Kaalia
Keemat
Khatta Meetha
Kismat
Kohra
Khel Khel Mein
Mera Saaya
Nanha Farishta
Narsimha
Parvarish
Palki
Professor
Raja Ko Rani Se Pyar Ho Gya
Rakshak
Raaj Tilak
Sadma
Santaan
Shahenshah
Sohni Mahiwaal
Swamyvar
Vishwas
Yateem
Yeh Ishq Nahin Aasan
Yeh Mohabbat Hai

http://www.desitorrents.com/forums/unto ... ad-389211/


All of these are known DEI/ BEI DVDs and we (between you & me) have them, except "Raja Ko Rani Se Pyar Ho Gya" that we nver could get hold of and got VS-SD version which actually is as good as DEI. Still, it would be nice to have this title with DEI encoding. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:12 am 
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The actress in Ashirwad (1968) is Sumita Sanyal, the lady in Anand (1971).
The actress in Alaap (1977) is Rekha


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:35 am 
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sengh_15 wrote:
Reference for all DEI titles posted on the forum. (Will be updated)

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I've prepared a thread for hum Dil de Chuke Sanam also. Probably U could add it


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:52 pm 
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rana wrote:
rana wrote:
rana wrote:
Wasn't Love In Tokyo (Joy Mukherjee) released by BEI in the last days of BEI ??

Somehow, I think having seen or read discussion about it on zulm ??

(April Fool sure was released by BEI, but as I vaguely recall, Love In Tokyo too was released by BEI ??)


Any recollection if DEI/ BEI ever released Love In Tokyo ??

Current internet search shows YRF, Morerbaer, and one NN brand versions of DVD ??

Charolastra wrote:
rana wrote:
Current internet search shows YRF, Morerbaer, and one NN brand versions of DVD ??

Love in Tokyo was also released by Spark.

Image


I did pick up Spark LOVE IN TOKYO and it turned out to be a terrible print plus it was rotten in the 2nd layer. Returned and picked up Moserbaer.

Big Surprise! Moserbaer version is excellent. Almost as good as Progressive DEI DVDs. Did not expect this quality from Moserbaer.

It's debatable if it's real Progressive or if it's totally uncut ??

Encoding is 30 fps Progressive but is not one film frame into one video frame (Orig film frames, 24 or 25 fps, have been thoroughly mixed up into 30fps video frames). It's field averaged. Not sure if it got 4% speed up in the process ??
If it got 4% speed up, it's full length. If no 4% speed up, then it's 7-8 min cut.
Film 1976 CC shows 4724 meters, i.e. 172 min, where as, DVD is 163 min.

DVD seems to have been made from a brand new restored film print.
DVD bit rate is pretty high (5.5 mbps). Audio is DD 2 Ch mono @ 384 kbps.


Much longer version of Love In Tokyo: 169 mins.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUZwkscomdg


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